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What the Hell Happened to Tim Allen?

Tim Allen

Tim Allen

It may seem odd to ask “what the hell happened” about a guy who is currently starring on a network sitcom.  Tim Allen definitely didn’t disappear.  He’s still a decent-sized TV star.  But once upon a time, Allen was more than that.  At the peak of his career, Allen had the number one book, movie and TV show in the United States.  Since that time, his track record at the box office has been spotty.  He hasn’t starred in a mainstream movie in nearly a decade!

What the hell happened?

Timothy Alan Dick was born June 13, 1953 in Denver, Colorado. His father died in a car accident when he was young, and soon after, his mother moved him and his siblings to a suburb of Detroit, Michigan. Allen remains closely intertwined with the state of Michigan including doing voice overs for the state’s tourism department.

Allen graduated from high school with a love for the arts (specifically classical piano), and went on the graduate from Western Michigan University. His career in show business began on a comedy club dare from friends. His first stand-up gig proved successful so he pursued comedy and gained enough local recognition to make the move to LA.

Tim Allen - Mug Shot - 1978

Tim Allen – Mug Shot – 1978

Before that, however, a wrench was thrown into Allen’s plans. He was arrested at Kalamazoo/Battle Creek International Airport for cocaine possession, 1.43 pounds of it. Meaning he was dealing. With a possible life sentence looming, Allen pleaded guilty, and ratted on some fellow dealers in exchange for a mere three-year sentence. It makes for one of the more surreal celebrity footnotes.

Tim Allen - Stand-up comedy

Tim Allen – Stand-up comedy

Newly released from Sandstone Federal Correctional Institution, Allen became a standup staple in the Los Angeles area, and steam was gathered for a television pilot. It was in vogue at the time for a network to commission an entire show based solely on a comedian’s standup material, to simply take what was there, and broadcast it.

Allen’s act was mostly based upon the male/female dichotomy. It was intentionally regressive.  He portrayed himself as a macho man, a “male pig” and proud of it, and supported the associated positions for comedic effect.

Tim Allen - Home Improvement - 1991-1999

Tim Allen – Home Improvement – 1991-1999

This was the basis for his ABC pilot, Home Improvement. His “male pig” character is given the additional dimension of being a caring family man, simply stuck in a 50s-era mindset.  Allen played the host of a do-it-yourself handyman show.  At home, he’s a goofy dad raising three young boys.

Home Improvement was a runaway success. Debuting in 1991, its first season was a ratings juggernaut. The show peaked commercially in the fifth season and trailed off until season eight which was its last. While Seinfeld appealed to the adult demographic, Allen’s show was aimed at family viewers.

Tim Allen - Golden Globe win - 1994

Tim Allen – Golden Globe win for Home Improvement – 1994

While Home Improvement was never a critical darling, both the show and its star did receive some recognition.  Allen was nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series in 1993.  He lost to Ted Danson who was nominated for Cheers.  He fared better at the Golden Globes where he was nominated five consecutive years from 1992-1996.  during that time he lost to John Goodman, Jerry Seinfeld, Kelsey Grammar and John Lithgow.  But in 1994, he took home the statue.

Ashley Judd auditioned for the role of the Tool Time girl.  Series creator Matt Williams was so impressed with Judd’s audition that he refused to cast her in such a small role.  Instead, Pamela Anderson was cast as the jiggly Tool Time girl.  Williams went back to Judd’s agent and offered to create a bigger role specifically for her.  If she had accepted, Judd would have played Allen’s sister.  Ultimately, Judd passed in favor of a smaller role on the dramatic series, Sisters.

Home Improvement ended its run in 1999.  By then, Allen had already diversified into movie stardom. He was earning $1.5 million per episode making him one of the highest paid actors in TV history.  Reportedly, Allen was offered $50 million dollars to return for a ninth season.

Next: The Santa Clause and Toy Story

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Posted on May 21, 2015, in Movies, What the Hell Happened?, WTHH Actor and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 200 Comments.

  1. Another great entry from oakleya77! He’s on a role.

    We’re planning to do some Disney-themed stuff in June so I thought about holding on to this another week or so. But ultimately, I just couldn’t wait to get it out there for readers.

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    • daffystardust

      I’ve never been a fan of Allen’s but this is a wonderful entry in the What the Hell Happened series, with a breezy, but informative read and good jokes. I do have to admit that Allen was probably the right choice for the wonderful Galaxy Quest, and his limited acting skills don’t damage the film at all. I understand why Ramis wanted Baldwin and others, though. Allen’s status as a Disney “legend,” based mostly on The Santa Clause and his voice over work in Toy Story, is a little overblown, especially considering some of the people who are not on that list (you’ll hear a little about at least one of them in June).

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      • Home Improvement was also a big reason for Allen being dubbed a Disney Legend. It was Disney-produced and aired on ABC. That’s why he received the award when he did. The show was ending an epic 8-season run. That show made the mouse a lot of money!

        Excluding voice work, I have seen precisely two Tim Allen movies. Galaxy Quest which is excellent and in which he is well cast and Wild Hogs which is less than good. Bad even. So I’m not a fan. But I agree that this was a terrific entry in the series.

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        • Derailed Film Stars: The Fading Buzz on Tim Allen:
          https://web.archive.org/web/20150106053020/http://www.twcc.com/articles/2015/01/04/d/derailed-film-stars-the-fading-buzz-on-tim-allen

          Original | Laura Smith, Originals

          Published January 4, 2015 07:00PM EST

          We’ll always have a soft spot for Tim “The Toolman” Taylor thanks to the classic 90s sitcom Home Improvement. Despite his personal setbacks and bumpy career, there is something innately likable about Tim Allen. After making a career of playing a professional smart ass and family man, Allen returned to the sitcom world on his show Last Man Standing, once again playing a Dad trying to maintain his manliness. Though he could probably retire and live off his Toy Story royalties playing Buzz Lightyear, see how Tim kicked around Hollywood for the past couple of decades.

          The Geeks of Galaxy Quest

          We’ve sung the praises of this cult comedy hit before as one of our favorite sci-fi satires. Doing his best William Shatner impression, Allen played the spaceship captain of an space-opera series that gets mistaken for a real crew and the hijinks ensue. Coming from the standup world, Allen can banter and improvise with the best of them, but his role in GQ also required some heart, which he willingly gave. Having starred in a hugely popular show himself, Allen has some experience parodying his own characters, which translated to the part perfectly.

          Wild Hogs Bonding

          Once a comedian reaches a certain level of their career, there inevitably follows the slapstick, ensemble comedy with their fellow aging peers (see the Grown Ups franchise), and Wild Hogs is exactly that. The more they hoot, holler and mess around on set, the less the movie actually makes sense. Allen stars along with John Travolta, Martin Lawrence and William H. Macy as a pack of middle-aged friends who decide to rev up their routine suburban lives with a cross-country motorcycle trip. What unfolds is a series of fish-out-of-water jokes, tired slapstick, and raging homophobia. The entire running joke of the film is that they’re not gay — just asserting their manliness. Even if you stack a film with talent, it can still sputter out.

          Not Crazy Enough on The Outside

          Going from playing Allen’s love interest in Galaxy Quest to playing his sister in Crazy on the Outside must have been a strange experience for Sigourney Weaver, but we expect nothing less from a pro. With some real prison time under his belt, one would think Allen could relate to the story of an ex-con trying to go straight, but his directorial debut was a flop and dubbed a Tim Allen vanity project, with a tired plot from two sitcom writers.

          Red Belt –Black Purse – Brown Shoes

          Throughout most of his career, Allen never aspired very far beyond his affable television-comedy persona, until he tried his hand at drama in David Mamet’s martial arts morality film, Redbelt. The film aimed to do for jujitsu what Rocky did for boxing, but even Mamet has his share of misfires. Casting Allen as a troubled action star was one of the more imaginative aspects of the film, but a dramatic debut this was not, as Chiwetel Ejiofor (12 Years A Slave) has the tendency to out-act and overshadow most of his co-stars. Just like his memorable role in Dirty Pretty Things, Ejiofor plays a man of honor who must survive in a sleazy world populated by movie stars, promoters and crooks.

          3 Geezers and a Hot Tub

          Allen graduated from starring in misbegotten movies to now only making cameos in them, so career-wise it’s considered a step in the right direction, right? J.K Simmons (The Closer) stars in this raunchy mockumentary about an actor who goes to an old-age home to research a part, only to wind up in a geriatric frat house. Instead of letting seniors be in on the joke, the entire concept of the film is aimed at making them the subject of ridicule. The only thing that explains the casting is that the film was directed by Simmons’ wife, co-scripted by his brother-in-law and he called in a favor from his Crazy on the Outside co-star.

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        • daffystardust

          I guess I feel like there is a “core” to what Disney is that does not include every little thing they produce as a company. Just because something was on ABC doesn’t make it an identifiable Disney property. “Pardon the Interruption” has been really popular on ESPN for the last decade or so, should Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser be considered for “Disney Legend” status? How about Shonda Rhimes? To be fair, Allen’s status as Buzz Lightyear actually makes him a much better candidate than any of the above people (although there’s nothing about his performance as Buzz that suggests it couldn’t have been done just as well by dozens of other actors). Maybe I’m just being grouchy because I never thought his talent came close to matching his popularity. His standup act appealed to the worst and most reductionist ideas about gender in the U.S. I am nothing like the men he assures that ALL of us are and the mass of unthinking nodding along that happened just bewildered me.

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        • One minor clarification, it wasn’t just that Home Improvement aired on ABC. It’s that it was produced by Disney AND aired on ABC. That made it doubly profitable for the Mouse. As far as Eisner and Disney were concerned, there wasn’t much that was more pure Disney than Home Improvement.

          I share your opinion of most of Allen’s output although to be fair, I haven’t watched most of it. He’s not my cup of tea. I can also agree with you about what a Disney legend should be. But that’s not what it is. It’s a company award like Employee of the Month. Yes, ESPN employees are eligible. Looking at a list, several people were named Disney legends in the fields of “character merchandise” and “publishing”. Actors are relatively scarce.

          Also, the award is used as a promotional tool. In 2013, Billy Crystal and John Goodman were both named Disney Legends. This coincided with the release of Monsters University. I’m sure both actors have worked for Disney outside of the two Monsters movies. But I would hardly describe their careers as being quintessentially Disney. Allen is more deserving in that a large percentage of his career has been spent working for the Walt Disney Company.

          Giving Allen the award in 1999 as his long running show was coming to a close was a way of promoting the show and probably kissing up to the actor to keep him around. Maybe even to lure him back for another season depending on the timing. It had very little to do with the “core” of Disney. That’s the kind of thing that we fans talk about, not Disney executives.

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        • daffystardust

          and we should!
          We clearly cannot count on corporations to behave responsibly/reasonably, so it is our job as citizens/fans to point and criticize. That’s part of the game.

          There are lots of names on that Disney Legends list that are either unrecognizable even to someone who has done a lot of reading about the company, or kind of puzzling for their inclusion. There is one absent name that sticks out like a sore thumb to me though. I wonder if it does to you to.

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        • Walt? I think that might be redundant.

          Eisner? It’s a pretty big slap in his face that he hasn’t been given the award yet. It started during his tenure. You know he expected to receive it by now.

          I hope they get around to recognizing Roy O. Disney. He was instrumental in saving the company twice as well as all of Disney animation.

          Katzenberg also deserves recognition but will probably never get it.

          I’ll be honest. I don’t really care about Disney’s core values anymore. Those are long gone. They are only ever brought up as a selling point. I see the company for what it is. A massive multimedia corporation. No different from Comcast. I see the Disney Legend title for what it is. Largely a promotional tool for the company. If the winners can provide some synergy with Disney’s latest release, so much the better.

          Anyone want to bet Tom Hanks is named a Disney Legend when Toy Story 4 hits theaters? Maybe Joan Cusack too.

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        • daffystardust

          Those are all good suggestions, but not the one I had in mind 🙂

          I completely agree that it is not realistic to believe that we can hold Disney to the idealized image they’ve sold us. That has been a come-on for a long, long time. But since we care more about that core than they do, I tend to see talking about it amongst ourselves as a positive activity rather than a fruitless one. Maybe that’s still naive.

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        • So who is your glaring omission? Or will we find out in June?

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        • daffystardust

          I’m hoping to work in the time to write a little something about this person, so I’ll just leave a hint.

          This person is an iconic Disney voice.

          …and now I’ve thought of a second omission who also fits that description.

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        • I look forward to hearing about it. Readers can consider this a teaser for our post-post apocalypse theme.

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      • When Tim Allen Jumped the Shark:

        Ignoring his career as a comedian, of course.

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        • Star-Derailing Role:
          http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StarDerailingRole

          Tim Allen’s career outside of Home Improvement and the Toy Story series had been made up of many critically bashed films, along with his highly publicized DUI incident in Michigan, that turned him into a walking joke. However, he still kept getting lead roles until Wild Hogs which, despite being a financial success, seems to have been the straw that broke the camel’s back as the only mainstream role he’s gotten since then is reprising his role as Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story 3. Other than that, he’s been doing independent films and also went back to TV in Last Man Standing.

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  2. Always loved the Home Improvement ensemble – it was a great show and I suddenly want to see those reruns again. What’s interesting to me is that Allen has had much more of an extensive film career than I would have guessed. Critics and box office aside, the man has not lacked for steady work! Glad he found something more profitable than dealing.
    Also, as usual in the series, I have discovered a “must see” movie. That clip from “Wild Hogs” had me rolling.

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    • Wild Hogs assured viewers that men were born to be mild:
      http://thedissolve.com/features/forgotbusters/518-wild-hogs-assured-viewers-that-men-were-born-to-be/

      by Nathan Rabin

      Forgotbusters re-examines movies that were among the top 25 grossing films the year of their release, but have receded culturally, in order to explore what originally attracted audiences to them, and why they failed to endure.
      .
      According to pop-culture conventional wisdom, the heterosexual male was once a proud creature that ran free across our fair land, like a mighty man-buffalo slathered in Old Spice. He was a veteran of one of the good wars, ideally World War II or at least Korea, and those experiences haunted him in ways he was too manly and stoic to ever reveal, to himself or anyone else. He wore a suit, tie, and cufflinks when he went to an office with a buxom secretary. He went golfing, told dirty jokes, and joined his buddies for thick, juicy steaks and martinis, or maybe some scotch. He pinched waitress’ asses and leered at strangers’ cleavage without fear of shame or consequences. He raised a family and died of a heart attack in his mid-60s. He hid his fear and vulnerability from the world, like his fathers before him.

      By the time the surprise hit Wild Hogs—the United States’ 13th top-grossing film of 2007—rolled around, the once-mighty heterosexual American male had become a sad, constrained, emasculated beast, the equivalent of a once-fearsome and majestic brown bear reduced to wearing clown clothes and riding a tricycle in a low-rent circus. The film surveys four different breeds of American men in crisis.

      Bobby (Martin Lawrence, who long ago lost his spark and now trudges through vehicles dead-eyed and devoid of life or hope), is mocked by his high-powered wife Karen (Tichina Arnold) for his aspiration of becoming a professional author, while his mother-in-law responds with a derisive, “It’s hard for kids to respect a man who don’t do none of the providing.” Bobby at least has the consolation that his mean, controlling wife, fearing that her no-good husband will be even more of a drain on his family than he already is, got him back his old job with “the firm.” But this brief promise of dignity dissipates with the revelation that “the firm” Karen speaks of is not, say, a law firm, but rather a plumbing company where Bobby spends his days elbow-deep in human waste. The revelation of the true nature of “the firm” is more dispiriting than comic; the entire first act of Wild Hogs is defined by wild oscillations between sitcom shenanigans and sour suburban sadness. The film laughs at its characters, tearing them down so it can build them back up.

      Doug (Tim Allen) is the bread-winner of his home, but as a successful dentist, he, too, is emasculated by a world that constantly reminds him that he isn’t a physician or a surgeon, and is consequently a pathetic half-man. Doug’s son doesn’t want to play catch with him because he doesn’t think his dad is a good enough athlete, and his family expects him to stick to his diet when his birthright as an American man is eat undercooked steaks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, washed down by scotch and an entire chocolate cake. Sure enough, a deviation from his diet sends Doug to the hospital, where his supportive wife Kelly (Jill Hennessy) tells him he needs to loosen up and embark on a City Slickers-like quest to find his smile. (This is not to be confused with a City Slickers II-like quest to find Curly’s gold.)

      Elsewhere, Woody Stevens (John Travolta) pretends to have it all together, but his supermodel wife is divorcing him, and he’s so broke, he angrily argues with a small child over the price of mowing his lawn. Woody pretends to have leverage in the battlefield we call earth, but he’s really nothing but a puny, rat-brained man-animal. Finally, Dudley (William H. Macy) can only dream of having a woman to divorce him, emasculate him, or gently encourage him to get his groove back. At a coffee shop, Dudley tries to impress an attractive woman by uttering “alternative specs” into his super-advanced voice-activated computer, only to have the computer misread his instruction as “alternative sex,” a search that leads quickly and inevitably to the geriatric-sex site grannylove.org. Despite being a computer programmer by trade, Dudley owns one of those curious machines, found only in lowbrow comedies, that refuse to shut down once sexually inappropriate material appears on them.

      These four men are so beaten down by a world that expects them to worry about their cholesterol and interact with women that not even strapping on leather jackets with “Wild Hogs” emblazoned on the back and riding motorcycles wins them any respect. In their Ohio hometown, the men are laughed at as motorcycle-riding wusses. So they embark on a plan to reclaim their lost manliness.

      Like Phil Pitzer in Easy Rider: The Ride Back, they head out on the open road with no cell phones, no rules, no nagging wives, and only a vague plan to drive to the West Coast looking for adventure and whatever comes their way. Along the way, the Wild Hogs tangle with biker gang The Del Fuegos, led by Jack Blade (Ray Liotta), and come to the aid of the small town of Madrid, New Mexico. (The diner built for the film was left intact after filming was completed, and is now a gift shop selling Wild Hogs and Del Fuegos souvenirs. So if you’re planning a worldwide quest to visit the most depressing tourist traps in the world, this should be on your list, followed by the Three Amigos-themed cantina in Cozumel, Mexico.)

      Of the four leads, only Macy delivers a real performance, rather than mugging or coasting lazily on his persona, as his co-stars all do. He’s the funniest element of the film because he plays the role dramatically, as a strangely delightful man who lives in a different, more wonderful world than everyone else. Macy’s Dudley is also, not coincidentally, the only Hog who seems comfortable in his own skin. He’s the only character who isn’t a poser, who isn’t constantly pumped up with faux bravado or macho delusions. He’s also the only character comfortable enough in his masculinity to do things that might be considered feminine without immediately, angrily proclaiming his fierce heterosexuality.

      For example, after crashing his bike early in the film, Dudley rides on the back of Woody’s hog, and Dudley sneaks a long, intense sniff of Woody’s manly musk. Woody is, of course, apoplectic. “If you ever put your head on my shoulder, I’ll throw you into traffic,” he angrily informs Dudley. But when Bobby asks him whether he girlishly smelled his friend’s neck, Dudley rhapsodizes without shame about how much he loves his friend’s cologne, like a teenaged girl in the first blush of puppy love. Later, at a swimming hole, Dudley dives in bare-ass naked because he views the human body as a beautiful gift from God, and not something gross and gay, as Travolta’s character does. His friends follow suit, but Woody only disrobes with the caveat, “I will get naked with my gay friends, and if any of them look at my junk, I will kill them.”

      Wild Hogs is as obsessed with the prospect of gay orgies and man-on-man rape as a PG-13 family film released by a subsidiary of Disney can be. When the four Hogs are forced by the circumstances and stupidity of the script to sleep out at night on a single filthy mattress in a field, a police officer played by the great John C. McGinley overhears them moaning things like, “Boy, my ass is sore,” “It’s Woody’s fault for riding us so hard yesterday. The human body isn’t meant to straddle something for that long,” and, “Anybody want to explain to me why I’m in the dirt, when I got sore jaws from three hours of blowing?” Such statements would seem to imply that these four awkward, middle-aged gentlemen are referencing a vigorous, sodomy-filled orgy during which they violated each other’s orifices and spirits with reckless abandon. McGinley’s dirty mind leaps to places not generally seen outside the San Francisco bathhouses of the 1970s, and he wants in. Instead of arresting these men for having public sex, he lustily demands to be part of what he imagines to be the men’s traveling outdoor orgy.

      Watching Wild Hogs, I got the sense that within this neutered family film there was an unspeakably awful, unconscionably offensive hard-R comedy waiting to break out. The entire production is charged with an intense anxiety about sexuality and masculinity that spills out in weird and discomforting ways, like a state-fair scene where a singer played by Kyle Gass performs songs like Pussycat Dolls’ “Don’t Cha” in a sexually suggestive, gender-bending manner. And when violence seems imminent at a biker bar where the Hogs make enemies of the fearsome Del Fuegos, Doug quips, “Does anybody else have that pre-rape feeling?” to which Jack Blade’s sidekick Red (Kevin Durand) responds eagerly, “I do.”

      Later on, Jack Blade admiringly says of the Hogs, “Those assholes got balls,” to which Red eagerly adds, “That I’m gonna put in my mouth and chew on,” causing an unamused Jack to punch him in the face. Woody merely talks repeatedly about the violence he’ll commit if confronted with men trying to hit on him or steal a glimpse at his magnificent penis. Jack straight-up punches people when he imagines they might want to nibble on the testicles of other men. And of course, this film about the threatened masculinity of four middle-aged men on holiday from the domesticating influence of women-folk makes sure to reference Deliverance and show all the pasty male asses a film can get away with and still qualify as PG-13.

      In between all the gay-panic jokes, friendships are strengthened, confidence is rebuilt, and masculinity is restored. After standing up to the bikers, Bobby gets the courage to stand up to his wife and politely request he be treated like a human being. Doug realizes that in the end, it’s the biker gang who are the real posers, and the Wild Hogs who are truly free. Doug comes to realize that his giant house, gorgeous wife, and thriving professional practice aren’t a prison of domesticity, they’re things that allow him the freedom to, say, go on an extended motorcycle ride with his friends.

      That, I think, is the tacky, superficial, crowd-pleasing allure of Wild Hogs. It assured viewers that even though they might engage in the great American pastime of fantasizing about escape and the open road, their middle-to-upper-middle-class lives are actually infinitely more fulfilling. Wild Hogs reaffirms the supremacy of its audience’s way of life by making the open road seem like more trouble than it’s worth. Instead of a gauntlet of youthful, transgressive pleasures, the open road offers these unhappy men bikers who want to beat them up and cops who want to fuck them. If Wild Hogs makes life as a henpecked suburban male seem small and sad, it makes being an overgrown baby of a biker-gang cliché seem even smaller and sadder.

      Still, within this stupid, phony, pandering movie there are scattered moments that hint at what might have been. More than once, Doug references his half-forgotten history as a guy who “used to get high a lot,” with a faraway look of abashed pride. These days, Tim Allen is better known for being on a hit family show for a million years than he is for being a convicted cocaine dealer, but every once in a while, a glimpse of that long-ago life Allen once led will slip into his work, and for a fleeting moment, threaten to make him interesting. That’s the case here. The painful yet tender way Allen utters the phrase “used to get high a lot” hints at a deeper, truer movie about a guy who traded in the seedy pleasures of partying for a cozier life, but still sometimes feels that hunger in ways that are difficult for him to understand or explain.

      Wild Hogs isn’t that movie. It steers clear of anything resembling a harsh or complicated truth, and can only acknowledge that a character used to get high a lot if it doesn’t go into any further detail. Wild Hogs made a lot of money reassuring the men of America that even though they’re no longer free to harass secretaries with impunity, or drive giant, gas-guzzling cars with enormous fins, they’re still kings of the road and gods among men. Wild Hogs’ inability to believe its own message helps explain why it has failed to endure. The film was slated to have a sequel, but the disastrous critical and commercial performance of Old Dogs, which reunited Travolta with Wild Hogs director Walt Becker, doomed the planned follow-up.

      Wild Hogs fans (or “Hoggalos,” as I’ve just decided they’re now known) needn’t despair, however. If history is any indication, this movie, which climaxes with an astonishingly clumsy, awkward appearance by Peter Fonda as Jack Blade’s disapproving biker-legend dad, will receive its follow-up several decades down the line, courtesy of Easy Rider: The Ride Back guru Phil Pitzer, who will be cryogenically frozen, then unthawed so he can produce, write, and star as the never-seen brother of Fonda’s character, and as Jack’s even cooler, even more badass uncle.

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    • Most likable and rootable sitcom lead characters:
      http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/530710/most-likable-rootable-sitcom-characters?page=2

      Post by theslickness on 17 hours ago
      yesterday at 5:29pm Push Val Venis said:
      Tim Taylor always meant well. He was hard to hate. He was the kind of dude you’d slap upside the head for being dumb then give him a hug 5 minutes later for being awesome. More or less a prototypical lovable oaf.

      Unless your name was Al.

      Agreed. Home Improvement kinda set the stage for the “lovable oaf married to smart/hot wife” wave that we saw from the mid/late 90’s onward, but the difference is, Tim didn’t have the same selfishness driving him most of the time. Yeah, he was a dope, but he was a tremendous father and husband 99% of the time

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  3. Nice work, oakleya77! Your Oscar Wilde joke was the best thing I’ve read all day. 😀

    I’m not a Tim Allen fan, nor am I not a fan. He’s just one of those actors who I do not actively seek out his work, but his presence in a project also does not cause me to avoid seeing it. But as a 90s kid, I saw pretty much everything in his filmography detailed in the first 4 pages of this article. That realization was mildly embarrassing. My favorite Tim Allen movie is definitely Galaxy Quest.

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    • Retrospective / Review: Galaxy Quest (1999)

      To gain access to reviews and commentaries early you can donate through Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/oliverharper

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    • The Lost Roles of Tim Allen:
      http://splitsider.com/2011/10/the-lost-roles-of-tim-allen/

      by Bradford Evans | October 6th, 2011

      After developing his popular stand-up act into the hit sitcom Home Improvement in 1991, Tim Allen became a highly sought-after actor for big screen roles as well. While most sitcom actors try and fail at movie stardom, Tim Allen made this tricky career transition gracefully with back-to-back hits The Santa Clause and Toy Story, each film spawning its own long-lasting franchise. Allen returns to his roots next week, starring in the new show Last Man Standing, a stab at a sitcom comeback on his home network, ABC. Let’s take a look at the various parts Tim Allen turned down, wanted but didn’t get, and the projects that fell apart altogether.

      What Women Want (2000)
      The role: Nick Marshall
      Who got it: Mel Gibson

      Josh Goldsmith and Cathy Yuspa, the real-life couple/writing team who penned this movie, sold the pitch to Disney’s Touchstone division under the name Head Games in 1996, with the intention of casting Tim Allen in the lead role. The character was originally written as “a guy’s guy” (which is coincidentally the only type of character Tim Allen can play) instead of the dreamy hunk type that it became. With Tim Allen in the lead, What Women Want would have been an entirely different film and probably would have been legally barred from using that title.

      Buzz Lightyear of Star Command (2000)
      The role: Buzz Lightyear
      Who got it: Patrick Warburton

      After voicing Buzz Lightyear in the direct-to-video Toy Story spin-off movie that served as the pilot to the animated series Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, Tim Allen turned down the opportunity to continue doing so for the full-on series. This was a completely reasonable choice since movie actors don’t typically reprise their roles in Saturday morning cartoons based on their films. Although this wouldn’t have been a massive time commitment, taking this part for the series’ full run would have partially distracted Tim Allen away from his other projects. I don’t want to be forced to contemplate a world in which the production of Joe Somebody didn’t receive Tim Allen’s undivided attention.

      Galaxy Quest 2 (never filmed, in development early 2000’s)
      The role: Jason Nesmith

      Galaxy Quest is far and away my favorite live action project Tim Allen ever took on. It’s a smart, well-executed Star Trek spoof that impressed critics and performed well with audiences. According to Allen, a sequel was presented to DreamWorks, but the studio has little interest in turning Galaxy Quest into a franchise. A shoddy second installment could diminish the original film’s reputation, and the first movie stands alone fine on its own. On the other hand, Galaxy Quest is a movie more worthy of sequeldom than The Santa Clause or Wild Hogs (more on that later).

      The Cat in the Hat (2003)
      The role: The Cat
      Who got it: Mike Myers

      Tim Allen originally signed on to play the lead role in the big screen adaptation of Dr. Seuss’s The Cat in the Hat in 2000. He dropped out due to a scheduling conflict with The Santa Clause 2, and Mike Myers subbed in for him. This was a smart choice by Allen, as Santa Clause 2 became a huge success and The Cat in the Hat was a complete disaster. Plus, Tim Allen in that freaky cat makeup would been even scarier than the way Mike Myers ended up looking as The Cat.

      These Guys (failed TV pilot, 2003)
      The role: Narrator

      Tim Allen’s second attempt at sitcom stardom, Last Man Standing, debuts next week, but he had previously made an effort to return to television in 2003 with the pilot These Guys. Allen created the show with Mark Brazill, the co-creator of That ’70s Show, and it revolved around a group of four middle-aged men who are at various stages in their relationships. Allen wasn’t planning on starring in the show, instead working behind the scenes as a producer and narrator. ABC passed on the pilot, and Allen waited eight years before giving his television return another shot.

      Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
      The role: Mr. Teavee
      Who got it: Adam Godley

      According to IMDb, director Tim Burton considered a slew of famous sitcom dads to play the Teavee family’s patriarch, including Tim Allen, Ray Romano, and Bob Saget, amongst others. This was just a supporting part and likely wouldn’t have netted Allen too much extra career attention, although the movie was a wildly-profitable venture that was showered with awards and nominations.

      Amigos (never filmed, in development 2006)

      Based on an idea by Tim Allen, Amigos is a family comedy that would have starred Allen and George Lopez as “mismatched in-laws” who must come together to raise their grandson. Amigos never made it into production, possibly due to George Lopez’s career starting to falter around this time. In 2007, his sitcom was canceled and his first big movie, Balls of Fury, was released and failed to live up to studio expectations. Oh well, it’s no great tragedy that these two sitcom dads never teamed up.

      Alvin and the Chipmunks (2007)
      The role: Dave Seville
      Who got it: Jason Lee

      Jason Lee wasn’t the first choice to play the human owner of the titular chipmunks in the first installment in this still-going franchise. Tim Allen turned down the role, as did John Travolta, Chevy Chase, and Bill Murray. Alvin went on to become a high-grossing film, but the chipmunks are the stars here, not Dave. It didn’t matter who was the lead actor, as kids were drawn in by the computer-generated rodents.

      Wild Hogs 2: Bachelor Ride (never filmed, in development circa 2007-09)
      The role: Doug Madsen

      Wild Hogs was such an overwhelming financial success that Disney started developing a sequel right when the box office receipts started to come in. It’s a little baffling as to why the first film was so popular, since the public hadn’t seemed very interested in most of the other projects by Tim Allen, John Travolta, and Martin Lawrence just prior to this, and none of them have found much success since. Also, it just doesn’t feel like a film that captured the hearts and minds of audiences in the same way that Knocked Up, Superbad, and Juno did, three comedies that all grossed significantly less than Wild Hogs but seemed to have had more a cultural impact. One popular box office conspiracy theory that seems to hold some weight suggests that Wild Hogs only performed so well because the R-rated movie 300 was out at the same time and teenagers bought tickets to Wild Hogs in order to sneak into 300.

      Nevertheless, Wild Hogs was more than a big enough hit to warrant a sequel. The studio greenlit a second installment entitled Wild Hogs 2: Bachelor Ride, in which the Hogs would have traveled to Europe for William H. Macy’s character’s bachelor party. Disney execs pulled the plug before production began, because of the failure of Old Dogs, another Disney movie with a similar name also starring John Travolta and directed by Walt Becker. I remember seeing the trailer for Old Dogs two years ago and saying to myself, “Nothing good can come of this.” Boy, was I wrong.

      Other cancelled projects
      •Hosting SNL (1991) – If this person posting under Tim Allen’s name on the actor’s official website isn’t an impostor, then Allen was invited to host SNL during Home Improvement’s first season but he was “too busy to accept.” It’s surprising that during Home Improvement’s wildly-successful eight-year run, Tim Allen never hosted SNL, but I can’t really imagine him playing different characters. SNL has certainly had less capable hosts over the years, though.

      •Star Child (in development circa 2001) – Tim Allen and Mel Gibson joined forces to develop this sci-fi comedy – a subgenre that has brought Allen success with Galaxy Quest as a potential starring vehicle for Allen. He would have played “a socially challenged CIA agent who helps a friendly alien get home after an interstellar battle.”

      •Untitled Kevin Pollak movie (in development circa 2002) – Actor Kevin Pollak sold the pitch to this high-concept family comedy to Disney, who bought it for Tim Allen to star. The story has been kept “under tight wraps,” but the vaguest of plot summaries was released: “a wealthy man… comes across an unusual character who ends up having a positive influence on his life and character.”

      •Father Knows Best (in development circa 2003) – A feature film adaptation of the classic 40’s/50’s radio and TV sitcom, Father Knows Best was announced in 2003 as a new Tim Allen project, but little activity has happened on the proposed film since then. Perhaps the failure of turning Bewitched, another old sitcom into a feature, contributed to the loss of interest.

      •In the Pink (in development circa 2004) – Allen was to star in this comedy as “a wealthy exec who loses his job and is forced to sell cosmetics door to door.” Bette Midler, Cher, and Wanda Sykes signed on to co-star, with Britney Spears even circling the project at one point.

      •Yosemite 3 (in development circa 2007) – Disney bought a pitch to Yosemite 3 as a vehicle for Tim Allen. The story followed three guys on a company retreat who get bored and sneak off into Yosemite National Park. The trio is reported missing and become the subjects of a major news story.

      •Q School (in development circa 2009) – Tin Cup director Ron Shelton was all set to direct Q School, a comedy that would have starred Tim Allen and Dennis Quaid as pro golfers competing in the PGA tour, from a script he penned with his Tin Cup writing partner John Norville. Production on the independent film was set to begin in 2010, but the project fell apart and everyone moved on.

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    • Tim Allen (and this isn’t necessarily a criticism per se) isn’t an actor who plays roles but is an actor which a character is based off of or molded around.

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  4. That’s that drug dealer dude, right?

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  5. Tim Allen’s ‘Last Man Standing’ Is a Right-of-Center Success:
    http://www.newsmax.com/Hirsen/Allen-Last-Man-Standing-conservative-ABC/2015/03/02/id/627707/

    Monday, 02 Mar 2015 10:43 AM

    By James Hirsen

    In the world of television entertainment, Tim Allen’s show, “Last Man Standing,” is a comedic oasis, especially for viewers who have longed to see more conservative-friendly themes appear within the much-loved sitcom category. Now in its fourth season, the series is proving to be a winner for ABC.

    Allen is a major star of both the big and small screen, which is impressive in these times considering that he is also one of those rare commodities in Hollywood — a conservative. Reportedly, the comedic actor assisted in fundraising for Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign.

    In what is largely a left-leaning community, Allen stands apart from most of his Left Coast colleagues. He keeps a rather low profile while at the same time consistently demonstrates an old-school work ethic.

    Interestingly, Allen isn’t just a conservative in real life; he plays one on TV. His television role is that of Mike Baxter, a rough-around-the-edges character with a big heart. Mike is a marketing executive at a sporting goods store chain called “Outdoor Man.” He is a married father of three daughters, a passionate advocate for traditional American values, and an individual who regularly exercises his right of free expression, even straying frequently into the realm of political free speech.

    Laughter is prompted easily as Mike interacts with some of the liberal-leaning characters on the show. As part of his duties at the company, he maintains a video blog in which he opines on global warming, overgrown government, anti-business policies, cultural hypersensitivities, and other revered leftist memes.

    Conservatism shows its sitcom hand in the sketches as well as in the family interaction. Mike’s youngest daughter Eve shares her dad’s interests, which happen to include the military and firearms. She is often seen on the show wearing a Junior ROTC uniform.

    When “Last Man Standing” debuted, Washington Post critic Lisa de Moreas noted, “TV critics loathed it — but 13 million viewers liked it. That’s TV’s biggest 8 p.m. comedy debut in more than seven years.”

    Since its debut, the series has attracted a sizable audience and by all ratings standards is considered to be a huge success. ABC television just sewed up eight straight weeks as the No. 1 watched network on Friday nights, with “Last Man Standing” and “20/20” topping the list.

    Notwithstanding the sitcom’s triumphs, TV critics in the mainstream media seem to love hating the show. Perhaps because of the worldview and politics of some of the script content, members of the critic community appear to have been overly brutal in their assessments, as seen in the following statements:
    ••GQ characterized the debut as an “utterly dismal pilot episode, which crammed Islamophobia, homophobia, and the phrase “Obamacare” into 22 minutes, completing some sort of cosmic Red State Hat Trick.”

    ••The Los Angeles Times remarked that “Last Man Standing” was “a case of people who can make situation comedies with their eyes closed making one with their eyes closed.”
    ••Newsday claimed that the show “reeks of flop sweat. ABC obviously reasoned the world was ready for a ‘Home Improvement’ revival. ABC is wrong.”
    ••A Washington Post reviewer wrote, “It’s not surprising that Allen and ABC think this unga-unga shtick still has market potential, but I once again refer you to the eerie silence from ‘Last Man Standing’s’ studio audience. It speaks volumes.”

    Back in November of 2012 Allen’s character took on a group of controversial issues in a single joke. In the episode, Mike explains to his daughters, “Let me put this in perspective with the inheritance tax. Now, one day I am going to die and I will split things up and give it to you guys, right? The Democrats will tax that inheritance and probably use that money to throw gay weddings for illegal aliens . . . if the Democrats win, the only thing you will inherit is a $16 trillion debt.”

    In a show that aired in October of 2014, Mike and his daughter discuss what the media refer to as “the crisis in the Ukraine.” When Allen’s character says, “The Russians aren’t in bed. They’re doing jello shots in the Ukraine and you know who we have to blame for that?” He and his daughter Eve reply in unison, “Obama.”

    In a November episode of the same season, the show referenced the signature policy of the current administration. Here is a sampling of the back and forth.

    “I’m already paying more to meet the new Obamacare requirements,” Mike’s boss says.

    “And I thought if you liked your present healthcare plan, you could keep it,” Mike snappily replies.

    The boss then indicates he may make his employees part-timers to avoid the health insurance premiums.

    “If I cut them loose, they can get their own plan on the private exchange,” Mike’s boss says.

    “I don’t think so,” Mike counters. “Anybody who can figure out that exchange is too smart to be working here.”

    Despite numerous liberal messages imbedded in television fare, Allen has shared in interviews some revelations about the struggles with ABC over the content of his show, including material that touched on the subjects of race, the Clintons, and descriptions of President Obama.

    Not so surprisingly, in a 2012 interview Allen told then-“Tonight Show” host Jay Leno that the executives at ABC had censored his program in part because his sitcom character had been scripted to call the president a communist. “The network has made “politically correct . . . the mode for me,” Allen shared. He reportedly fought to keep the line in the script but couldn’t convince the brass at ABC to leave it in place.

    Thankfully, to the delight and satisfaction of fans of Allen’s show, right-minded and otherwise, the conservative Allen is still standing.

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    • Last Man Standing’s second season was the weirdest sitcom season since ’Til Death:
      http://www.avclub.com/article/ilast-man-standingis-second-season-was-the-weirdes-95857

      By Todd VanDerWerff

      Apr 1, 2013 •12:00 AM

      Between Last Man Standing’s first and second seasons, the largely non-distinct sitcom, mostly known for being Tim Allen’s return to television, had a choice to make. Headed for Fridays, the second least-watched night of the week (after Saturdays), the program had to do something to make some noise and hopefully attract viewership. Simply having Allen in the cast wasn’t going to do it any longer. So, as Allen and new showrunner Tim Doyle discussed with the New York Post, the choice was made to try to turn a bland family sitcom into a modern-day Norman Lear comedy, complete with arguing about social issues, Barack Obama, and the nation’s legacy of genocide.

      Did it work? Having watched all 18 episodes of the show’s second season, I can’t really say that it made the show better, but it certainly made it weirder. (And in terms of ratings, it allowed the show to keep the lights on on Friday, no mean feat.) Its attempt to put a finger on the country’s pulse made it much more worthy of discussion than when it was just about some angry guy living with too many women, as it was in its first season. It’s like when ’Til Death turned into a strange meta-sitcom in its final season, though somehow even more misguided.

      The basic premise of Last Man Standing is the same as Allen’s former sitcom hit, Home Improvement, only his character, Mike Baxter, has three adolescent-and-older daughters, instead of three child sons. The oldest daughter, Kristin, was the promising one who was going to succeed, until she had a child late in high school, and she’s lived in her parents’ house with her son, Boyd, ever since. Middle daughter Mandy is a ditzy fashionplate. Youngest daughter Eve is the one who’s closest to her dad, into things like soccer and hunting. There’s an outdoor-store workplace setting where Mike deals with crotchety boss Ed (meant to be the even more hyper-masculine version of Mike in season one) and dumbass employee Kyle. And in the second season, the show made an attempt to flesh out the neighborhood the Baxters lived in with a handful of recurring characters, including a black couple who become fast friends with the Baxters, and a Latina maid. In addition, the second season added the father of Kristin’s son, Ryan, as a semi-regular, meant to be the Meathead to Mike’s Archie Bunker.

      The problem with Last Man Standing’s attempts to go political is exemplified by the first scene of the season première, which remains one of the most uncomfortable scenes of television I’ve ever watched. It’s not even really bad so much as it’s actively discomfiting, doing its best to push buttons in the audience that don’t need to be pushed, as if it thinks what made Lear’s sitcoms a success was the yelling or the mentions of social issues that people sometimes argued about. Mike says Obama was born in Kenya. Kristin and Ryan make fun of Romney for being a robot. It goes on and on and gets more and more squirm-inducing, but in a way that is clearly meant to be a good time. This is the new height of political humor?

      The characters on Last Man Standing don’t speak about issues in any sort of nuanced manner, nor do they have terribly deep discussions about them. They mostly repeat buzzwords and shout at each other a lot. The show wanted to make Mike into a conservative hero, but it didn’t bother giving him a consistent worldview. He’s just somebody who spouts Fox News talking points a lot, and while that may be somewhat true to life—in that most modern political arguments between left and right tend to boil down to talking points gleaned from elsewhere—it doesn’t make the experience of watching people shout pithy, empty phrases at each other any more interesting or involving. What’s more, Mike’s main liberal competition—Ryan and, occasionally, Kristin—tend to speak as if they came up with their own political positions from reading the list of tags at the bottom of posts on a left-wing blog.

      Again, this is true to life. Few political arguments—particularly those among family—have the level of nuance one might expect from, say, a mythical boxing match between Paul Krugman and Milton Friedman. And, thinking back on All In The Family, Archie and Mike Stivic’s arguments on that show rarely had much nuance to them, either; the series gained much of its power from moments when it could step outside of their limited points-of-view and depict the world as it actually was. What made All In The Family’s political arguments work—what made the vast majority of all of Lear’s series featuring such arguments work—were the character stakes. The idea that Archie and Mike would love or even respect each other at the end of one of those knockdown shouting matches wasn’t taken for granted. They really might end up pushing each other too far, and did on occasion. The relationship, which grew to a kind of grudging respect and finally love, was one of the best developed in television history.

      It’s unfair to hold a relationship that’s only existed for 18 episodes of television to that sort of standard, but the central problem with Last Man Standing’s political arguments is that the show A) never gives viewers a reason to care whether Mike and Ryan respect each other at the end of the day (after all, Ryan’s not even a series regular), and B) takes it for granted that the two will respect, and maybe even love, each other. Ryan abandoned the mother of his child and said child for three years and has returned, trying to right his wrongs. The Baxters have every right to be suspicious of him, and it would be easy enough to turn Mike and Ryan’s political arguments into arguments about something more fundamental in their relationship: what Mike perceives as Ryan’s utter inability to help out Kristin when the chips were down. That’s interesting. That’s drama. But Last Man Standing runs away from it at every occasion.

      The series has the right idea in trying to ground the political in the personal. For 99 percent of us, politics is personal. Think, for instance, of the relief you might have felt when Obama won last year, or the despair you might have felt when Romney lost. Those emotions may have been driven by something politically concrete on one level, but they were also driven by a more fundamental, emotional level. No matter how much you may believe in [insert issue here], every election comes down to a choice between something you identify strongly with and something you do not. The two-party system all but guarantees this. When the characters on a Norman Lear political sitcom argue, this is what they’re really arguing about: the defense of the self against something that would encroach upon it. Too often on Last Man Standing, however, the characters just argue about politics to give each other a hard time. There’s little sense of passion, and even when the characters come up against a problem that’s truly insoluble—where there are significant arguments to be made on both sides—the show chickens out and ultimately buries everything under a gloss of, “Well, at least we all still love each other!” Take, for instance, the episode “Mother Fracking.”

      Mike’s wife Vanessa (the great Nancy Travis, given sadly little to do) is a geologist, and part of her work involves using the process known as fracking to gather natural gas. Eve’s terrified of the impact this might have on the planet, so she stages a one-girl protest. Vanessa rightly points out that the best current method of finding energy comes from fossil fuels. The choice is presented along admirably stark lines: Enjoy the modern comforts that in many cases keep us alive, or probably fuck up the planet irreparably. There’s a real opportunity here to strain a relationship between mother and daughter, one viewers actually do care about. Instead, Mike tells Eve that her mother does her best, and maybe Eve shouldn’t give Vanessa a hard time, since she really loves her little girl. And… that’s about it.

      This question of making giant political issues into smaller, more personal ones runs throughout the season (though toward the season’s end, it becomes less about that and more about interpersonal relationships), and it’s sometimes, frankly, embarrassing. There’s a whole episode that clumsily creates the impression it wants to make a one-to-one comparison between the genocide of American Indians and Ryan leaving after Boyd was born. (Ryan doesn’t appreciate Ed promoting Outdoor Man with a Western-themed stage show—that arrives out of nowhere, it must be said—which features rampaging Indians. Later, when Ryan tries to say that it doesn’t matter what he did in the past in regards to Boyd, Mike accuses him of turning the tables and trying to sweep his own history under the rug. It’s… awkward.) There’s also an episode, talked about in the Post article above, where Eve gets in trouble for bullying at school, which means well but also inadvertently seems to suggest that kids should be able to use as many anti-gay slurs as they want. Because the show is so intent on not having a definitive political point of view, it comes off as clumsy more often than not. It also forces the characters to behave in ways no human being ever would, as in one episode when Vanessa wonders if she received a promotion because she is good looking, then actually goes and asks her boss that very question. Who would do this?

      There are stabs at character complexity here and there. Ryan is liberal to a fault but also subject to his own unexamined prejudices, particularly when it comes to how he, deep down, believes the mother of his child should submit to his authority. And Eve’s a gun-toting wannabe Marine who’s also really concerned about the potential destruction of the planet, and recoils in horror at the Wild West show when she finds out about the plight of the Indians. I’d feel more strongly supportive of these stabs at complexity, however, if the series didn’t leave the impression that it simply forced the characters into whatever straitjacket it needed them to be in for that particular episode. Eve will be a budding hippie in one episode, a budding military member in the next, and never the twain shall meet. Considering the show does take stabs at consistency of setting and story serialization, it’s just a little strange, as if Last Man Standing understands that people are complex but wants to present all of its characters as different archetypes in different episodes, lest they get too complex.

      That Last Man Standing doesn’t really work is all the more disappointing because it comes close enough to suggest a show worth watching. Even if the show’s first season was more consistent across the board, it was much less interesting than the second, which was fitfully fascinating, as in an episode when Kristin learns Mandy is infatuated with Kyle, whom Kristin earlier dated, and takes this occasion to reignite her relationship with Ryan. It’s a wonderfully ambiguous moment, where Kristin’s motivations are surprisingly nuanced—until the next episode, when she and Ryan are just happy together again. In its second season, it was incredibly evident that Last Man Standing had seen some of the best shows in TV history and was trying to ape them, but had mostly just captured the surface of them.

      This is too bad. The cast is game, the jokes work on occasion (particularly when delivered by Molly Ephraim, who plays Mandy, and Hector Elizondo, who plays Ed), and the show’s attempts to work politics into the mix are at least admirable and less wrongheaded than they might initially appear. Tim Allen doesn’t really have it in him to play Archie Bunker, but he does have it in him to play a guy who might have heard Archie back in the ’70s and heard in the man’s bitterness and resentment something that resonated, then found that sanded down by success and comfort. Where Archie was a blue-collar hero, Mike Baxter lives in the world of upper-class security. Where Archie was railing against a world that terrified him precisely because he didn’t know how secure his future was, Mike doesn’t have to worry about that. At its best, Last Man Standing can reflect some of the anxieties of Allen’s generation—like the thought that these late Boomer parents want to raise their daughters to be independent, then fall back on tired old gender stereotypes when those daughters really are independent—and provide a kind of comedy attuned to red-state sensibilities (ironically, since it’s set in bluing Colorado). Sadly, it’s too often at its worst, where it knows it has something to say but has no idea how to say it.

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      • The Upside to Tim Allen’s Manly-Man Brand of Comedy:
        http://splitsider.com/2013/06/the-upside-to-tim-allens-manly-man-brand-of-comedy/

        by Justin Gray | June 5th, 2013

        When I have a tool in my hand, like a screwdriver, let’s say, or a power drill, I become riddled with anxiety and begin to sweat profusely. A tool offers less in the way of helping me fix things than it does a brand new opportunity to fail at something. My brothers built trucks when they were teenagers, and my Dad used to hang around with them, offering instruction and insight into the inner working of the combustible engine. Where was I? Probably in my room, nose firmly planted in a book. Or masturbating. Yeah, probably masturbating. So, a trip to a hardware store for me generally tends to go a bit like this:

        Like Marc Maron in this terrific episode from his new show Maron, I carry around a certain amount of shame for my total ineptitude when it comes to doing anything even remotely manly. However, I do believe I have it in me to still walk into a hardware store and gaze at the endless rows of tools and think, “Yeah, with these, I could solve everything.” It is a particular delusion that men seem to live with, and no man captures that delusion quite as well as Tim Allen.

        The clip above is from an early standup appearance from the time Allen was just surfacing in the public consciousness. One of Allen’s brilliant conceits in his standup act is his ability to both lampoon man’s fascination with tools and also celebrate it. (“I got a gear puller…I have no idea what it does…looks good on the peg board, though!”) Those inclined to dismiss Allen’s standup as simple gender stereotyping are ignoring the subtle groundwork that he has laid. For anyone who has performed standup comedy and received any kind of notes from someone in power, whether it be a talent management or a club booker, one of the most baffling pieces of advice to receive is that you should “have a point of view.”

        This is the kind of advice that tends to be so generic that it’s worthless; however, it’s not always — an act like Tim Allen’s is what they’re talking about. We know exactly who Tim Allen is one minute into his set. Even his throwaway opener about avocadoes reveals that he is the type of guy who isn’t impressed by your newfangled produce. He is the type of guy who thinks of himself as a macho man, but reveals himself to be quite inept with these expensive tools he buys for himself. His character is in some ways a Midwestern, red-blooded American riff on Woody Allen’s standup character, who often positioned himself as ladies man during the setup of a joke, only to deflate that character during the punchline. And say what you will about the Tim Allen grunts, but it is a terrific hook for his character and allows him to be both boorish onstage while also admitting that his behavior is not the most enlightened.

        It was the duality of his standup persona that would allow Allen to make one of the easiest transitions to sitcom stardom ever. During the hey-day of standup comedy during the late 1980s and early 1990s, it seemed like just about every standup comedic worth his salt received a sitcom. Most of these shows turned out to be duds — generally comics would be thrown into roles as a teacher or something if they got a show, then have their acts watered down by executives; making the choice to center the show around a well known comic superfluous. However, when the sitcoms were centered on comedians who had a definite point of view, like Tim Allen with Home Improvement or Roseanne Barr on Roseanne, the shows tended to snap into place pretty quickly (of course outliers like Seinfeld simply rewrote the rule book on what a sitcom could be).

        On Home Improvement, much of Allen’s act served as the basis for the early episodes (which is par for the course for most of these sitcoms) and unlike Larry David’s rule on Seinfeld of “no learning, no hugging,” Home Improvement was all learning and hugging. A general episode of Home Improvement would center around Tim Taylor doing something insensitive to his wife or kids and then growing confused as to why people were mad at him. After a heart to heart with faceless next-door neighbor, Wilson, Tim would realize what he had done to upset someone.

        It’s no accident that Home Improvement surrounded Tim Taylor with characters who were generally smarter and more open to change than him. Granted while his wife, Jill Taylor, served as a catalyst for many of Tim’s epiphanies, he generally found guidance from the super-intelligent Wilson. Even Tim’s sidekick, Al, on the show within a show, Tool Time, was often portrayed as an overly sensitive new-age type of man but the jokes made on the show at his expense were often undercut by the fact that Al was always shown to be the more competent craftsman at the tool bench. An inversion of the expected stereotypes and a sly comment on the fact that much of the macho chest pounding of Tim Taylor was nothing more than a façade put on to live up to the gender expectations of modern man.

        The show also served as great training ground for Tim Allen as an actor, a career he would ultimately end up pursuing rather than sticking to standup. And really, Tim Allen has had a breathtaking career as an actor. The transition from TV to the big screen is one that few comedians and actors are able to navigate successfully; however Tim Allen hit the ball out of the park in his first starring role in The Santa Clause. While his role in the film was not exactly a stretch for the Allen, his cynical wisecracking take on the man who would become Santa helped cut through the treacle mush that often mires this type of fare down. However, the other two installments would never quite get the formula right again.

        While The Santa Clause may have shown Hollywood that he was able to carry a film, it would be voicing Buzz Lightyear in the classic Toy Story that would secure his place at the top of the A list. Tim Allen’s characterization of Buzz Lightyear as an earnest yet misguided new toy in competition with Tom Hanks’ Woody for the affections of their child owner proved that Allen had considerably more acting chops to play characters other than thinly veiled versions of himself on TV shows. Two films later as well a series of shorts and the character still remains super popular among youngsters.

        However, while the Toy Story films are indisputably great and Allen’s voice characterization certainly contributed to that, I would argue that Tim Allen’s best work in a movie was and continues to be in the fantastic Galaxy Quest. Allen stars as the leader of a rag-tag cast from the fictional sci-fi show Galaxy Quest who are unwittingly brought into actions by an alien race who have mistaken the TV show as a historical accounting of life on Earth. The film works as a pitch-perfect spoof of Star Trek, as well as being a solid movie on its own terms. Tim Allen shines as Jason Nesmith, a stand-in for the egomaniacal yet effusively charming William Shatner. Allen does a great job in the role, leading a cast of top-notch character actors (notably Sigourney Weaver, Sam Rockwell, and Alan Rickman) and gives the character a depth and feeling that transcends the goofy premise. Surprisingly, out of such a pedigreed cast, Allen does most of the emotional heavy lifting, while the rest of the cast get the funniest lines. However, in this clip, Allen gets his Kirk on while tussling with a rock monster.

        Since the end of his sitcom and his run of hit films during the 1990s, Tim Allen has appeared in several different movies, of varying degrees of quality. In 2002, he starred in Barry Sonnefeld’s Big Trouble, which was unceremoniously dropped into theaters a year after it was supposed to be, due to a plot point that involves getting a bomb onto an airplane — studio executives didn’t feel that would play well post-9/11. While few of the movies he has appeared in have lit up the box office quite the way Toy Story or even Galaxy Quest did, Allen has deftly switched back and forth between indie fare and big-budget comedies like Christmas with the Kranks. In 2011, Tim Allen made his return to network television on Last Man Standing. The premise of the show is that Allen’s character, Mike Baxter, is a macho man (heck, he even owns an outdoor sporting goods store!) who finds himself surrounded by a wife and three daughters. In its initial season, the show hit all of the notes you thought it would with that premise. However, when the show returned for the second season, after quite a bit of re-tooling, the program took a more political bent, positioning Baxter as a kind of modern day Archie Bunker. It was a big risk, but numbers for the show have slowly increased throughout the season (take some time to read AV Club writer Todd VanDerWerff’s write up of the show for some great insight).

        Tim Allen has had a surprisingly varied career. He’s been a standup sensation, had a hit sitcom, been the voice of one of the most iconic animated characters of the past twenty years, and has proven himself a reliable leading man in several different kinds of films. He continues to explore and expand his voice on television and for this he gets our begrudging respect.

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        • Reasons Why Turning This Into ALL IN THE FAMILY 2012 Doesn’t Work:
          http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=4742697&postcount=17

          Holy cow. I thought the show was cute last season. Not great, but cute. I don’t even understand what’s going on now. I can’t tell if these are actually Tim Allen’s views, or if he’s pulling a Carroll O’Connor. If it’s the latter, then he is in no way as skilled as Carroll O’Connor. Nor is his character as sympathetic. Archie Bunker, for all his bigotry, was an old weary man on his old weary chair, in his average Queens blue collar house. Mike Baxter is middle-aged, married to a very pretty woman, and lives in a frickin’ mansion. He doesn’t work in a factory or drive a bus. He vlogs — VLOGS! — for a living. And so his hard-line, they’re the takers, we’re the makers shtick is all the more unsavory. He’s got a pretty damn nice life, despite the fact that a portion of the USA speaks Spanish. If he was struggling early-Roseanne style, maybe I could see why he feels the way he does. But as it is, Archie Bunker he is not. And with no intelligent counterpoint to his views, a la Meathead, it makes me think Tim Allen shares more opinions with his character than not and likes using his show to voice them. That’s absolutely his prerogative, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

          For all the manliness and tools and grunting that was espoused on Home Improvement, there was a much more gentler spirit at the heart of that show. Tim Taylor never failed to learn a lesson at the end of every episode that brought him closer to understanding someone else’s point of view. Mike Baxter is summed up by “Us against Them” — red state vs. blue state, men vs. women. His grandson’s father doesn’t want his son to play dodgeball, therefore he is not a man, therefore he is not on Mike’s team. I never thought I’d describe Home Improvement as nuanced, but it was, especially compared to this.

          As for the cast changes — don’t like ’em. I didn’t really care for the new Kristin when she was on Grey’s Anatomy, and she grates here.

          And dodgeball was my favorite game when I was little — like ages 7-11. I think 5 is probably too young, and I can absolutely understand why a school would not want their students playing a game where getting injured is pretty par for the course — hello, liability! Actually, Red Rover might’ve been my favorite. We used to play it on asphalt. You could totally do some damage playing that game. Ah, New York City public schools in the early 90s. I’m surprised I never broke my glasses.

          The only reason why Archie Bunker got away with his bigotry was because he was seen as an old uneducated fool who didn’t know any better and representative of the older close-minded generation (I would cringe at some of the things my grandma would say). Mike Baxter just comes off as racist. We can’t even forgive him because he is too young and too educated to be so close minded. That is why this new show “Re-tool Time” won’t work!

          The actress who plays nuKristin is 28 years old, which makes her way too old to play Kristin as a girl who got pregnant at the prom and finished high school on home teaching.

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          I can’t tell if these are actually Tim Allen’s views, or if he’s pulling a Carroll O’Connor.
          Carroll O’Connor was funny because he was playing the opposite of his own views. According to what I’ve read, Tim Allen believes every word he’s saying.

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    • Opinion: Why gun-owners should watch “Last Man Standing”

      http://www.guns.com/2015/03/10/opinion-why-gun-owners-should-watch-last-man-standing/

      Every now and then, there comes a funny sitcom that remains clean while the rest of Hollywood indulges in trashy one-liners and unrealistic scenarios. “Last Man Standing” is one of those sitcoms. But perhaps even more shocking about this show is the pro-gun streak that continues to run through the series.

      Now in its fourth season, “Last Man Standing” follows the life of Mike Baxter (played by Tim Allen). Allen’s character is an outspoken conservative businessman who is a partner in the fictional store “Outdoor Man.” He is the face of “Outdoor Man,” and lives out his passion for everything “masculine” and “outdoorsy”at work, but finds himself lost in a house full of women when he gets home. Luckily for him, his youngest daughter, Eve, is cut from the same cloth, and shares his interests and conservative worldview.

      Mike believes in speaking his mind and sharing his perspective with his “fans” and the show celebrates the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and all the freedoms that Americans cherish. Just about every episode features one of Mike’s video blogs (vlogs), where he mentions the importance of free speech, privacy, personal responsibility, common sense, and yes, gun rights.

      Uniquely, its storylines have tackled gun rights issues from a pro-gun perspective.

      In one episode, Mike’s oldest daughter’s fiancé confronts her about having a gun in the house, and she decides to give it back to her father. Mike resists at first, but eventually accepts it and uses it as an opportunity to emphasize the importance of having a gun for protection. He ends the conversation by telling her to call him if she ever finds herself in danger so that he can come with his gun.

      The show also seems to promote hunting. In another episode, his middle daughter realizes that she can get feathers for her clothing line by hunting pheasants, so she joins her younger sister on a hunting trip, and brings back several. To the surprise of everyone, she relishes in the sport of it.

      Moreover, Eve is in Junior ROTC, and frequently boasts about her marksman skills with pride. Where else on network television do you find such a positive light shed on firearms?

      Of course, “Last Man Standing” wisely strays from becoming too biased. Mike is always balanced out by his wife, his oldest daughter, and her uber-liberal Canadian fiancé. In fact, the show even received a positive review from the liberal magazine Slate. And that says something.

      Yet the show is clear enough to get the message across. In our politically correct culture, Tim Allen has brilliantly found a way to make private gun ownership “acceptable” on network television.

      It is unsurprising that “Last Man Standing” has climbed the ratings (8 million views when you include DVR viewers) and has endured four seasons, despite the fact that it’s been scheduled against shows like NCIS. After all, another show that defends the Second Amendment, A&E‘s Duck Dynasty, drew a record-breaking 11.8 million viewers to its Season Four premiere, ranking it as the number one nonfiction series telecast in cable history.

      These programs should send a message to Hollywood: people are tired of the same, preachy gun-control narrative that is spewed by actors on medical dramas, crime shows, and ESPN reporters.

      “Last Man Standing” offers Americans a refreshing reminder of what it means to be American. By dealing with hot topics the American way—through discussion and debate—it offers both sides of the argument, and allows its viewers to wrestle with the issues on their own. Even better, it doesn’t villainize either side in the process.

      The gun debate is so plagued with so much misinformation and so many misinformed gun grabbers. Kudos to Tim Allen and ABC for offering viewers a different perspective than the politically correct one.

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      • If this is yet another convoluted misinterpretation of the Second Amendment, I’m not watching it. The gun debate is actually plagued with full time NRA paid lobbyists, and like anything else where there is a lot of money on one side, expect the “debate” to favor that side. Gun grabbers? I would celebrate each and every person identified as such. Grab all guns, please. Oh but that would cut into NRA profits….

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      • http://t.co/7n0rr0yk5F

        ‘War Games’ episode really hit home for #LastManStanding star @amandafuller27

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        • Negative fan reaction tough on ‘Last Man Standing’ star Amanda Fuller:
          https://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/browse_thread/thread/88ce0b6a270a79e6

          By Amber Dowling
          2012-11-29

          ‘Last Man Standing’ replacement overwhelmed by mean people
          When Amanda Fuller took the job as Kristin Baxter on Last Man
          Standing, she was genuinely excited to have nailed the old-fashioned
          audition process, and to be working alongside Tim Allen. Little did
          she know joining the ABC sitcom would cause a huge fan backlash.

          “I have to be honest, it hasn’t been easy,” the 28-year-old tells TV
          Guide Canada. “I wasn’t expecting people to embrace me right away, but
          it’s weird because social media gives people an outlet to say whatever
          they want, honestly.”

          Fuller joined the cast of Last Man Standing this season as part of a
          show overhaul. Behind the scenes, showrunner Kevin Abbott left to run
          fellow ABC sitcom Malibu Country, replaced by Rules of Engagement’s
          Tim Doyle. In front of the camera, Alexandra Krosney departed as the
          original Kristin, while her onscreen son, Boyd, was aged. To fill the
          position, twins Luke Andrew and Evan George Kruntchev were let go and
          Flynn Morrison took their place. Jordan Masterson was also cast as
          Boyd’s baby daddy Ryan, a character that was previously played by Nick
          Jonas.

          “There’s been a lot of negativity and I’ve just been taking it with a
          grain of salt, knowing that it’s not completely personal and that
          there has been change on the show,” Fuller explains. “I’m a part of
          that change, and change makes people uncomfortable. I’m proud of the
          work that we’re doing and I hope that people will just catch up and
          get on board enough to fall in love with the show, even as it’s taking
          this new course.”

          Fuller says that landing the gig was one of those strange things in
          life that just seemed destined to happen. Coming off of more serious
          roles on Grey’s Anatomy and in the film Red, White and Blue, returning
          to a multi-camera show was a salute to some of the roles she’d done as
          a teen. Plus, she’d had all of these “strange connections” with Allen
          growing up, including hanging out on the set of Home Improvement as a
          girl because she’d shared a manager with series star Taran Noah Smith,
          and learning that one of her brothers, a first A.D., met his wife on
          the set of The Santa Clause 3.

          “I’ve always been a strange fan,” Fuller laughs. “I didn’t tell him
          right away. I didn’t want to be like, ‘SO, let me tell you all the
          ways we should work together …’”

          Coming up, it sounds as though Fuller – bubbly and charming in real
          life – has her work cut out for her. She maintains that her version of
          Kristin is tougher, and therefore potentially not as likeable as the
          first one, but she’s also someone who stands up for what she believes
          in, and can go head-to-head with her, er, headstrong father. It’s a
          refreshing change from many of the other young teenage characters
          portrayed on television nowadays.

          “Tim Doyle is trying to up the ante and make it a show worth
          watching,” she says. “He’s bringing out the real issues that real
          families can relate to, and that real people are dealing with. Stuff
          that isn’t just silly, but stuff people can talk about.”

          It seems to be working. Last Man Standing remains the top-rated Friday
          night show in its timeslot among key demos, with ABC also recently
          ordering an additional five episodes of it and Malibu Country, which
          is retaining 100 per cent of Last Man’s lead-in audience. (Neither
          show was picked up for an original full order because they debuted so
          late in the season.)

          Fuller also hints at some upcoming romantic storylines for her
          character, pointing to the close connection she shares with her son’s
          father, and at a potential “love square” with ex-boyfriend Kyle
          (Christoph Sanders).

          “There’s a twist,” she promises. “There’s a lot of players. We’ll see
          what happens, but Kyle gets back in the picture, just not necessarily
          with Kristin. Let’s just say that.”

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        • Last Man Standing Star Amanda Fuller Opens Up About The Casting Controversy Surrounding Her Character Kristin:
          http://www.celebified.com/videos/last-man-standing-star-amanda-fuller-on-the-kristin-controversy

          ​ABC’s Last Man Standing is heading in a new direction. Now in its second season, the show already has a new showrunner, Tim Doyle. Tim chose to recast several roles, including the part of Kristin, the oldest daughter. Amanda Fuller joins the cast, replacing Alexandra Krosney, and she dishes to Celebified that with change comes a new direction. Hear her take on the “Kristin” controversy, as well has where the show as a whole may be heading.

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    • Seriously? So the coke dealer is now right wing?? The things I learn here!!

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    • Fearless ‘Last Man Standing’ Takes on Liberal Scare Tactics and Hillary Clinton:
      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/alexa-moutevelis-coombs/2015/10/03/fearless-last-man-standing-takes-liberal-scare

      By Alexa Mouteveli… | October 3, 2015 | 4:36 PM EDT

      Amidst all the shows with a blatant liberal agenda, “Last Man Standing” is a lone conservative voice on ABC; a gem hidden away in the 8pm Friday night slot. The latest episode of the sitcom, “Free Range Parents,” hits scaredy-cat overprotective parents, leftwing news, and even Hillary Clinton.

      Mike Baxter (Tim Allen) is trying to get his son-in-law, Ryan, to allow his grandson to walk 6 blocks home from school by himself, but liberal Ryan worries too much about everything, from diabetes to free range parenting, or as Mike calls it, “childhood.”

      -Look, he’s six blocks from here. Let him walk home.
      -Mike, we’ve talked about this, okay? I think it’s way too dangerous.
      -You think everything’s dangerous. You know, it’s starting to rub off on that kid. He looked at an ice cream truck, and he called it “The diabetes wagon.”
      -Well, it is, okay? Do you want to know why kids scream for ice cream? Because they’re dying.
      -Well, all of our kids walked home from Clark every day without any problems.
      -MM. Except for our little brother Oliver.
      -Oh, but it’s only been five years. Little Ollie might still turn up.
      -You know what, don’t even joke about stuff like that, okay? There are child abductions all the time. That’s why I don’t buy into the whole free-range parenting thing.
      -Okay, what is that? Is that where, like, the kids live on the farm and learn to make wooden furniture? Or wait — what’s amish?
      -It’s this new movement where parents are letting their kids play outside unsupervised.
      -We used to call that “Childhood.”
      -I just don’t see the upside in letting Boyd walk home, all right?
      -You know what, I work with children every day, Ryan, and they need to be given responsibility. I mean, a good kick in the ass would be better, but then I would be “Unfit as an educator.”
      -That was fun today. Can I walk home by myself tomorrow?
      -Uh, I don’t know about that, buddy.
      -Come on, dad. Please? I’ll help you save the whales.
      -We won’t serve whale at outdoor man grill.
      -Fine. Okay? We will try it. But look, you come right home after school, okay? No stopping, no talking, no playing.
      -Sounds like childhood in North Korea.
      -Where you’re probably allowed to kick students in the ass. Lucky.
      -Well, congratulations. You get to walk home from school. Tonight we celebrate with a big bowl of diabetes.

      Mike’s old school message is clear: Just let kids play! He bemoans the fact that the liberal news media manipulates emotions by trying to scare you that “free enterprise might make somebody rich.”

      -No, this is good. I’ve been trying to get him to let Boyd have a little more independence.
      -No, this — this is exactly why we’re not selling toys here. These parents are too overprotective nowadays. My mom once for a birthday party gave me a plastic gun. On the box, it said “A great way to put out an eye.”
      -Okay, Ryan means well. He just watches the news too much.
      -The lefty news. All they’re scared about is free enterprise might make somebody rich.

      In his final video monologue on scare tactics, fear, and courage, Mike talks about what distinguishes people from animals: “Human beings are blessed with reason.” The problem is that some of us, like his liberal son-in-law, are too scared to use it. Then he takes a parting shot at Hillary Clinton:

      Hey, Mike Baxter for outdoor man here to talk about scare tactics. Sadly, they work. I’m just enjoying some mixed nut– oh. You see, the part of the brain that triggers fear works faster than the part that controls reason. For some people — little kids who are afraid of the dark and certain son-in-laws who are afraid of… Well, just about everything, the reason part of the brain never really kicks in.

      As a contrast, animals don’t have reason. That’s why the stupid coyote always ends up in midair holding that stick of dynamite. And that’s why my dog panics every time the doorbell rings. He goes nuts, and I try to explain to him, “Listen, burglars don’t ring the doorbell.” And you just get that look from the dog. Human beings are blessed with reason. But it’s harder to use it when the media bombards you with terrifying images — tsunamis, plane crashes, the new colonel Sanders. That’s why I’m declaring outdoor man a fear-free zone, because we don’t sell fear. We sell courage, we sell engagement between man and nature in the form of kayaks, climbing gear, and — on sale this month — casting rods. You see, the world is kind of the opposite of Hillary Clinton. It actually gets less scary the better you know it. I’ll leave you with a quote. “Fearless is not the absence of fear. Fearless is living in spite of those things that scare you to death.” And what great philosopher said that? Aristotle? Schopenhauer? Descartes? No, it — it was Taylor Swift. If that ain’t scary, I don’t know what is.

      Now that’s an empowering, common sense conservative message that sadly is sorely lacking on television, and in today’s society in general. It’s a rare show that’s fearless enough to take on the left’s sacred cows – perhaps the last one standing.

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    • What happened to this show in season 2?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/lastmanstanding/comments/2v7nhi/what_happened_to_this_show_in_season_2/

      I’m just watching this series through from season 1. And just got halfway through the premier of season 2. I’m already thinking about giving up on it.

      I can see why Alexandra Krosney left after season 1. In season 2, her character is completely inconsistent with what she and the writers had created in season 1. Somehow, Kristin and her baby daddy have now become the mouthpiece of every left-wing and Bill Mahr straw-man argument, dismissive and preachy.

      With episode 1 of season 2, they went about to completely destroy the show we loved in season 1 about a man with conservative ideals trying his best to raise his 3 daughters in a world that butts up against his traditional view of values and masculinity. Within the first 2 minutes of the episode, it became a vitriolic political mouthpiece that felt much more LA than Midwest. It went from a family with which Midwerterners could relate, to a caricature of what Hollywood believes Midwesterners are like, which is very offensive to everyone.

      This became a completely different show and the ratings clearly punished them for it.
      I have also caught a couple recent episodes and am very disappointed in the complete lack of character development and even regression among the main cast members. Most egregious was how Mandy and Kyle have been “Flanderized” into vapid simpletons available for cheap laughs.

      It’s like someone in Hollywood tried to kill a show about a conservative family that could be decent.

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  6. Tim Allen was someone who didn’t cross my mind, but it turns out his career fits well for an entry in this series. I’ve always been a fan of “Galaxy Quest” (viewed it in a theater; in fact, during the 1990’s I spent more time in the theater than viewing TV, so “Home Improvement” mostly escaped me, although I think it’s a solid show) and I actually like “Who Is Cletis Tout?”, but I think Tim Allen has had better sustained success on television (I’ve viewed “Last Man Standing”, and find it very watchable).
    I think this was an excellent article overall.

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    • Re: What the Hell Happened to Tim Allen? (LeBeau’s le Blog)

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/thread/244096688?d=244110054#244110054

      You’re being WAY too harsh to Tim Allen. A few points:

      Tim still IS a TV star–LMS has just been renewed for a 5ht season, it is a success. For many, if not most, TV stars, lightning strikes only once (if at all). Michael Fox couldn’t make a successful return in his most recent try–and he is only one of the former TV stars who tried and failed to make successful return to the screen. And of those who have, they are usually one of an ensemble (Ed O’Neill of Modern Family comes to mind). Not only has Tim Allen made a successful second act, he is the undisputable star and indispensable cog of his show–it’s not an ensemble (though the supporting cast is, for the most part, very good).
      Faulting Tim for the decline of his movie career is misleading because his move career was never THAT successful. Setting aside Toy Story (not really acting) his only big franchise that I can think of is The Santa Clause. And even then, the only truly classic entry in that trilogy is the first one. I personally like Tim’s movies quite a bit; I’m a fan. But his movie career was never a huge hit with audiences at large. You can’t lose something you never had to begin with. The only thing Tim lost was the opportunity to star in movies–that happens to all actors as they age.

      Tim Allen always was a TV star, and still is a TV star.

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      • How was the article harsh? I wonder if this commenter actually read the article or just the title. (It doesn’t sound like it.) The article clearly makes the point that Allen is a very successful TV actor. But to say he was “always a TV star” is misleading. He was at one point a movie star. Or at least he was making an effort to be. Between 1994 and 2008, he starred in 13 live action movies. That is completely discounting the fact that he does voice work in one of the most successful and beloved animated movie series ever. He didn’t go back to TV until 2011 after his movie career had petered out. He did not have his own show for over a decade. There was a time when he was a former TV star. The commenter seems to want to ignore that fact. In retrospect, sure, he was really better suited for TV. But in the 90’s, he looked like he had made the transition.

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        • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/thread/244096688?d=244156615#244156615

          What I’m wondering is what the hell happened to Matthew McConaughey and Kevin Bacon. Both of them have been the leads in TV shows recently and Bacon’s show even got canceled. For that matter, what the hell happened to John Travolta who is going to star in a TV series this fall? Or Patricia Arquette, Dennis Quaid, Charlie Sheen, etc. Hell, even The Rock is starring in an upcoming TV series and he’s already had Fast and Furious 25 or whatever this year and you can’t watch an hour of TV without seeing a dozen commercials for his new movie. So if doing TV work is a sign of your career going downhill a lot of people in Hollywood are screwed. Why limit it to Tim Allen?

          The fact is that doing TV is smart. A successful movie may be shown on network TV a few times and then on cable regularly (once a month or so) for maybe 10 years. After that you probably won’t see it on TV very often and if you want to own a copy you may find it in the bargain bin if you’re lucky. But Bonanza, Gunsmoke, Lucy, Andy Griffith? None of that has ever left the airwaves for any significant amount of time. We’re talking five days a week for over 50 years in some cases. I’ll return to this topic in a minute, but something else first.

          Your comment about actors having more than one show last for five seasons or more got me curious and I did some Googling. I’m sure I’m missing a few, but the group is very limited. Some who I was reasonably sure would be in it were not. Bill Cosby’s I Spy and the show Cosby from the ’90s hadn’t lasted as long as I’d thought and while both Maverick and The Rockford Files made it to five seasons James Garner left Maverick after season three.

          So these are the names I could come up with: Lucille Ball (she had three), Andy Griffith, Bob Newhart, Carroll O’Connor, Michael Landon, Larry Hagman, Don Johnson, Buddy Ebsen, Raymond Burr, and Bryan Cranston. And some of those I’m reluctant to include. Cranston and Hagman, for instance. Malcolm in the Middle was really Frankie Muniz’s show and while Breaking Bad did last five seasons, it only did 62 episodes or about three seasons by network TV standards. Likewise, Barbara Eden was the star of I Dream of Jeannie and Dallas was very much an ensemble, although J.R. was the most memorable character. If we include them I guess we can also include Mary Tyler Moore.

          I listed all of those names to demonstrate my first point. None of the people I named were ever at the top of the A-list and you’d probably be hard-pressed to think of a single movie any of them starred in, but I’m also guessing pretty much everybody recognizes their names or would be familiar with at least one of the shows they starred in. Can that be said of movies and movie stars from the same era?

          There is an annual poll of movie theater owners that has been going on since 1932 to determine the top 10 box office stars of the year. I Love Lucy ran from 1951 to 1957. In that time period the top stars were John Wayne (twice), Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, William Holden and Rock Hudson. Some real heavyweights there for sure, but in terms of continuing popularity all these years later and contribution to their chosen field, John Wayne is the only one who can compete with Lucille Ball and I consider them equals. Lucy was as important for the sitcom as John Wayne for the western. The other actors listed there are all great, but to today’s audiences Rock Hudson is probably known more for his sexual orientation than his life’s work, they may know Gary Cooper for High Noon and Stewart for It’s a Wonderful Life and they’ve probably heard some Dean Martin songs but wouldn’t know he also acted. I doubt the name William Holden would ring much of a bell at all, although he was in two of the greatest movies ever made (Sunset Boulevard and The Wild Bunch). So I don’t think I’ll get much argument in saying that Lucy and John Wayne are the most iconic of those mentioned.

          But now let’s look at Home Improvement and Tim Allen. Unlike Lucy, Tim actually made the list one year. In 1994, he was ranked sixth. The other nine on the list were Tom Hanks, Jim Carrey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson, Jodie Foster, Michael Douglas, and Tommy Lee Jones. Hanks and Cruise aside, I think Tim is pretty much keeping pace with the rest of that pack in being able to stay in the spotlight. The others may still be making movies rather than TV, but most of them are in supporting roles these days. In fact, I don’t see anybody there who hasn’t done at least some supporting work recently

          Finally, as for him not being able to star in movies I think it depends on the budget. I remember going to see Wild Hogs in the theater and thinking it was the best thing he’d done since Home Improvement (and the best Travolta had done in at least that long). I also remember that there was a sequel in development for a while. There’s no reason why he couldn’t still pull that off, but I doubt that he’d get the budget for something like Galaxy Quest again. But, in the end, it doesn’t matter much. He seems happy doing his stand-up shows when LMS is in the off-season and that’s really what’s important. If he made more movies I’d go see them, but I’d rather save $10 and watch LMS every week or go see him live at one of his comedy shows.

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      • Voice acting IS acting. In fact, there has been a lot of criticism of animated movies hiring A-list actors to do the voices instead of professional voice actors who usually do a much better job. Whether or not Allen should have been chosen over a professional voice actor is one thing, but it definitely counts as a real acting role. That’s not the same as saying Toy Story is a Tim Allen movie though.

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        • daffystardust

          I totally agree, Carl. Just listen to the great voice actors and broadcasters and compare the character and skill they convey compared to any old person who can speak reasonably well and there’s just such a gap. I’m hoping to honor a couple of these people here sometime in June. The voice just says so much more than words alone can.

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    • Allen didn’t really cross my mind either because he’s currently on a successful TV show. He certainly hasn’t disappeared. But he has disappeared from the big screen. That’s the angle. Why wasn’t his movie career more successful? I think that’s a fair question to explore.

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      • I’m about halfway through “Wild Hogs” and will have to view the rest later. It is a pretty funny movie – as with Home Improvement, Allen is at his best as part of an ensemble – in my opinion anyway.

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        • Have you gotten to the scene with John C. McGinley yet? It’s really embarrassingly awful. Macy saved the movie for me just barely. The three bigger movie stars might each get a yuck or two but Macy stole the show. But the extended homophobic jokes just kill the movie dead in its tracks. I have no desire to ever watch that movie again.

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        • It’s awful, but not in a bad way. Here’s the thing. It’s still hilarious. I always remember on one of the early podcasts, you and Daffy were discussing humor, I don’t remember exactly the subject but the general idea was that when screen humor veers into the potentially offensive side, “if better be funny.” It might have been Daffy that said that. That really struck me as insightful. And in this case, the scene was funny. “Homophobic” would be portraying the gay community in some negative way, in this scene it was a gay highway patrol officer hitting on them, is there anything hateful in that? I wouldn’t think so. The Macy character, I so agree with you, Macy’s excellent but I really do love character actors anyway. The three big names, Allen, Travolta, and Lawrence, well let’s just say I now have to go back and re-read 3 WTHH this long weekend! 🙂

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        • The whole point of a lot of the humor in the movie is that the worst thing that these guys can imagine is for someone to think they might be gay. When they actually meet a gay person, they can’t get away from him fast enough. They are horrified of him. But he just keeps coming after the because as everyone knows gay people can’t help chasing straight middle-aged men.

          In my humble opinion, there’s nothing remotely funny about this kind of gay panic “humor”. It does portray the gay community in a very negative light and it absolutely fails the “better be funny” test. It’s groaningly unfunny and completely offensive. After having rewatched that clip just now, I can’t believe Disney ever let this movie see the light of day.

          Comedy is subjective obviously. I can’t tell you what to laugh at and what to be offended by. But for me, I’d rather have elective dental surgery.

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        • That’s quite a statement, I just had some dental work done and well… that’s quite a statement. The whole difficult to get numb thing… I’ll watch all of Wild Hogs 10 times in a row rather than feel that nerve again. Anyway 🙂
          The scene in question isn’t really one of the underpinnings of the movie in its entirety. It’s one scene in a series of misadventures, which again is actually quite entertaining. It isn’t a major theme as you described, the theme is more about how these 4 guys are dealing with the fact they aren’t young anymore. Watch the coffeeshop clip where Macy is trying to impress the attractive woman at a nearby table. It is freaking hilarious. Like you said, I can’t tell you not to be offended, and I wouldn’t imply such; only you can decide that.
          Allen isn’t playing his macho tool time character. He’s a dentist undergoing a midlife crisis who actually has a panic attack thinking about it, at the dinner table, and thinks he’s having a heart attack instead. At the hospital his wife tells him that he SHOULD go on the motorcycle adventure with his friends, because apparently she thinks he’s losing it 🙂

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        • I could go on about how the problem with the movie isn’t just that once scene. Articles have been written about all of the ways in which Wild Hogs is offensive. Travolta’s character in particular is constantly being made uncomfortable about his manhood. There’s a scene where a gay character gets punched in the face for being too flirtatious. And really, most of it isn’t funny. Macy is because he feels like he’s in a completely different movie. A movie I would much rather be watching then Wild Hogs.

          I don’t get horribly worked up about the movie. It’s too dumb for that. It’s easily forgotten.

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      • I agree; as it turns out, the demise of his film career is a worthy subject to analyse and discuss. It’s also true that Tim Allen was unavoidable through the 1990’s, even if one lived in space (then he would just be tracked down, like in “Galaxy Quest”:-).

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  7. forrestbracket

    wild hogs is funny. john c mcginmely scenes are a hoot. people take movies too seriously sometimes. they expect every movie to be groundbreaking oscar worthy. its was a fun enjoyable movie people can kick back and relax too. like u said lebeau his last theatrical movie was a hit i think he choose to take it easy. he wanted to to go back to tv easier schedule. iam kind of surprised u put him up there. hes same league as damon waynes except tims had a better movie career. despite having a good amount of hit hes seen more as a comedian /TV star. Not really an actor. i think hes funny in movies and tv show but not necessary a good actor.like you said plays different variation of same character.hes more talented then ray romano and jerry seinfeld more successful too. I didnt think tim was proper candidate for website but you know better then me.

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  8. forrestbracket

    Another thing lebeu Home improvement wasnt a critically darling in its first seasons but became it afterwards. Emmys are tv equivalent to oscars tv shows that get panned dont get emmys usually. i do remember home improvment getting great reviews in its 2nd seasons and past it

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    • What I posted about “Home Improvement” on TVTropes (regarding whether or not, it still has an impact like other sitcoms of its era):
      http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/context.php?groupname=DeaderThanDisco&title=LiveActionTV&line=75#75

      During the ’90s, ”Series/{{Home Improvement}}” was neck and neck with ”Series/{{Seinfeld}}” for the distinction of being the biggest sitcom on TV. The latter is entrenched into pop culture, while with the former, people would probably struggle to name five characters from the show today. While ”Home Improvement” for the most part wasn’t necessarily a bad show (it was definitely smarter and more likeable than almost anything on TGIF during that era, with the exception of maybe ”{{Series/Boy Meets World}}”), it was none the less merely an okay one. Therefore, if you wanted sharper, cutting edge comedy, your best bets at the time were ”Series/{{The Simpsons}}”, ”Seinfeld”, ”Series/{{Roseanne}}”, and ”Series/{{Married With Children}}”. Despite being one of the highest-rated show on TV for years, it isn’t brought up very often, nor do you see it on TV as much as, say, ”Seinfeld”, ”Series/{{Friends}}”, or even ”Series/{{Frasier}}”.

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  9. With the caveat that it has been YEARS since I’ve seen it I rather liked ‘Wild Hogs’.

    John C. McGinley’s character is desperately painful and was horribly dated even in 2006 but I seem to recall he vanishes half way through the movie (which I’ll admit is half a movie too much.)

    That said ‘Galaxy Quest’ is outright brilliant and Tim Allen will always get a pass for me for that.

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    • I don’t fault anyone for liking Wild Hogs. Like I said before, Macy just barely salvaged the movie for me. Mrs. Lebeau, who was a huge fan of Travolta and Lawrence at the time, really enjoyed it.

      I just don’t ever want to sit through it again.

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  10. Craig Hansen

    Oakley77, terrific post! I was aware back in the 90’s that Allen had a criminal record (yep, he actually served prison time before becoming famous). I was not aware, however, that Disney had to actually break one of it’s own ground rules to actually hire him to star in The Santa Clause; Disney had a rule against hiring ex-cons that it had to overlook to hire Tim Allen! Wow, that is a great trivia bit right there. Not that Allen should be judged too harshly for his criminal past, after all everybody deserves a second chance, but in that light it is slightly funny that Tim Allen was dubbed a DISNEY LEGEND when any average Joe could not even get past the front gate with his history.

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    • That was the part that I found ironic too. Obviously, Allen hasn’t been a career criminal and we should be willing to look past his youthful transgression. But it is unusual that someone like Allen would even be hired by the Disney company, much less receive their highest honor.

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  11. Nice writeup!

    Who knew that 1999 would be such an incredible year for movies? Galaxy Quest was one of 36 movies I saw in the theater that year, an all-time high for me. Allen was simply superb in it. I had never watched a single episode of Home Improvement and still haven’t, lol, though I had seen the Santa Clause (not sure why, but I did–in the theater, too). Anyhow, fast forward to Joe Somebody. I was expecting good things. The premise seemed solid, and that Tim Allen wit… OMG. That was one of the worst movies I have ever seen in the theater. It has that “bad movie stink” from the first frame, and it’s one of only a few movies that has ever tempted me to walk out of the theater. Just horrible.

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    • Allen’s movie career is really littered with stinkers like Joe Somebody. Galaxy Quest is the clear stand out of the bunch. And yes, 99 was a great year. In spite of the massive disappointment of The Phantom Menace.

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      • I had a bad feeling about “The Phantom Menace”; a friend of mine was purchasing a CD from Sam Goody and the cashier asked him if he wanted pre-screening tickets for a low rate or something like that. He declined, and after walking away we discussed that the film wouldn’t be something to shout about (the “Batman Forever” of Stars Wars pictures, so to speak). Ahh, 1999 and Sam freak’n Goody.
        Other than that, I liked 1999 in the theaters as well.

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      • I’m pretty sure the new Star Wars flick is going to be terrible too, though in a totally different way. I just don’t see the story as being there. And the premise seems to be terrible: there’s an awakening in the Force? Was it sleeping when Palp, Darth, Luke, and crew were going at it? Oh but now this new villain is going to be really scary and threatening. Sure.

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        • I actually have hope for the new installment (not a new hope though; maybe renewed hope?).

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        • Haha. And upon what is this hope based? With all the oohing and aahing over the trailers and whatnot, I’ve heard joy at seeing the Millennium Falcon again, nostalgia-based things like that, but I have yet to hear anyone say that the story itself sounds in any way cool.

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        • I see what you mean; you may be right, I may be crazy (I just may be the Billy Joel I’m looking for), but at least the plot is going forward, not backward. Mind you, I have muted expectations (I feel the greatness of the Stars Wars franchise lies in video games nowadays), but at least in seems headed in a better direction.

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        • First, I don’t mean to sound snarky. I totally get where that feeling comes from. I saw the original trilogy in the theater. The excitement about and love for those movies was so intense. People really want to get that feeling back. The material was there for the prequels to be masterpieces (I mean, it would have been completely different material than what Lucas vomited forth!), but they were horrendous movies. So, this may sound snarky, but do you mean a better direction than the most disappointing movies in the history of cinema? 😉

          I think the new Star Wars movies are going crush hopes in a way that the prequels didn’t. The prequels were flagrantly terrible. They were artfully awful. You probably couldn’t have made worse movies had you tried. They stomped on one’s very soul.

          The new movies are going take that disappointment even deeper by just being “meh.” They are going to have some cool eye candy and some action, but there will be no there there. I think though are going to be like the recent Ultron movie: people in general will at first kinda go “rah rah,” but no one’s going to love them on a deep level. Actually, I doubt they will be even as good on the surface as Ultron, since at least Elizabeth Olsen was good in that and looked hot.

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        • There’s nothing inherently wrong with the premise that evil has re-awakened. Just because evil is bested, doesn’t mean it won’t ever surface again. In fact that’s real life evil 🙂 The challenge will be in the execution. The trailer gives us nothing. I hope that it isn’t because they have nothing, but I’m willing to wait and see what develops.
          Having heard all the horror stories about the prequel trilogy, I never saw them. If this latest turns out to be nostalgia, like a Love Boat reunion, i’m actually OK with that.

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        • Here’s the thing. No matter what, you can’t “get that feeling back” because you’re not a kid anymore. Kids experience movies like Star Wars differently. As a seven year old, I hadn’t developed the critical ability to realize that Star Wars was incredibly corny. Watching it today, I realize that it’s pretty cheesy but I don’t care because I loved it when I was 7.

          Which is not to say that adults didn’t like Star Wars in 1977. But it was definitely a movie aimed at kids. Adults may have liked it, but not with the intensity of those of us who were kids at the time. You may or may not like the new Star Wars movie. But there’s no way you will feel the same way about it that you felt about the originals. It’s just not possible.

          There are people who love the prequels. No matter how bad the new Star Wars may be, there will be lots of people saying it is the best Star Wars movie ever.

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        • Time will tell. I’m hoping for the best and prepared for the worst.

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  12. forrestbracket

    in my opinion 1994 and 1999 best year for movies. 1994 had gump pulp fiction,shawshank, four weddings,leon ,mask,dumb and dumber and ace venture. 1999 good too fight club green mile american beauty toy story 2 ,cider house rules ,magnolia ,insider hurricane,bowfinger and being john malcagveg

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  13. Bad Movie Beatdown: Christmas with the Kranks

    The Kranks are going on a cruise for Christmas. Film Brain wishes they’d sod off sooner.

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  14. Update: “Home Improvement” Creators Lose Court Case over Syndication Profits:
    http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=309204

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  15. Blockbuster Buster: The Shaggy Dog (2006)

    Did the world really need this remake?

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  16. Last Man Standing: TV Show’s Star Tim Allen Says Sitcom Will Get Political in 5th Season:
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/08/04/last-man-standing-star-tim-allen-were-going-to-drill-hillary/

    “We’re going to drill Hillary.” – Tim Allen

    LOS ANGELES – Season 5 of “Last Man Standing” is going to get political with the presidential race upon us, and neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump is going to be safe from the wisecracking Mike Baxter, played by Tim Allen.

    “We’re going to drill Hillary,” the star told FOX411 at the Television Critics Association Q&A session for his ABC series. “It will be horrible personally if Hillary continued [to lead the Democrats], but it will be great for the storyline if she continues.”

    But the Democratic party isn’t the only one who will be under fire. Despite being a Republican, Allen isn’t throwing his support behind frontrunner Donald Trump.

    “I sat with a group of liberal Jewish guys who said, ‘When Trump starts to make sense, we know the world is upside down,'” Allen says. Then he jokes, “Until I see what’s under that hair, I can’t really support him.”

    How far the comedy is going to be allowed to go with its candidate bashing depends on ABC, which has several times expressed its unhappiness at Allen’s character labeling President Obama a communist.

    Even as we can look forward to Clinton and Trump coming under ridicule, Allen did reveal the candidate who is getting his support: Republican John Kasich

    “I went to see him at an L.A. town meeting, which is usually a very liberal forum,” said Allen, who has made his peace with being a Republican surrounded by Hollywood liberals. “He talked about poor people — the underprivileged and the working poor. It was very un-Republican. He’s a Republican that a Democrat could vote for.”

    Politics wasn’t the only hot topic on the table. Because Mike Baxter is the owner of a series of sporting goods stores, some of which sell guns to people who hunt and target shoot on “Last Man Standing,” the show’s approach to guns and hunting was raised.

    “We haven’t dealt with this thing on the show because it gets us into a debate that there’s no winnable side. [Mike] has to have a position,” Allen says.

    The “Toy Story” star went on to relate his personal experience with firearms, saying he and his seven brothers grew up in Colorado, where they learned to clean and respect firearms at the YMCA.

    “None of us hunt or use weapons, but all of us know how to treat them and not to point them at people, and if you do, you’d have to want to use it,” he says. “None of my brothers has ever shot a gun, but we know how to clean them.”

    “Last Man Standing” returns for its fifth season Friday, September 25 on ABC.

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    • Tim Allen says Last Man Standing will skewer Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:
      http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/08/05/tim-allen-says-last-man-standing-will-skewer-hillary-clinton-and-donald-trump/

      “We’re going to drill Hillary,” the Republican ABC star told critics. He added, of Trump: ”Until I see what’s under that hair, I can’t really support him.”

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      • Tim Allen didn’t seem to learn anything from shows like for example, “Murphy Brown” or anything that Norman Lear put out in the ’70s (like “Maude”). When you structure your program around real life topics and conflicts (in trying to capture the political zeitgeist of the moment), you immediately run the risk of not having a long shelf-life. To put it in another, what ever was relevant or considered “hot-buttoned” now, won’t automatically or easily resonate many years down the road.

        “A Different World” is another sitcom that was huge during its initial run but is not brought up to much among other shows during the “golden age” of NBC’s “Must See TV” line-up because of its topicality. It was pretty much or a lack of better words, kind of pigeonholed as being the “black issues” sitcom of the ’90s.

        Unless you were old enough to appreciate or understand the climate that we were in, it’s going to be even harder to grasp on the context. In effect, come rerun time, what we’re watching, more or less, comes off as a history lesson. Even other shows (that perhaps weren’t as strident w/ its political/social commentary) like “Family Ties” feels horribly dated and “quintessentially ’80s”.

        Maybe, if Tim did something more involving analogies (a la in “Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country”, which touched upon the end of the Cold War in a sci-fi setting), it wouldn’t feel as dated or “of its time”.

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        • I myself am fine when a TV series is or wants to go topical, but yeah, it does hurt its rerun-ability (not a word) for the reasons you described. One has to be either in the moment with that series or a nostalgia romantic (as I am). I guess it’s probably safer to make the content more universal, yet avoiding making it too vanilla or generic.

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      • Last Man Standing – TV show:
        http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/529586/last-man-standing-tv-show

        Post by (SHDD) Rick Styles on 13 hours ago
        So I just watched the first season of this show on Netflix and it was hilarious. A lot more adult humor then I expected then when I started season 2 I was shocked that they had changed the oldest daughter actor and style completely and even the kids father. After watching the first episode of season 2 I gave up on it and was really disappointed. Anyone else a fan of this show?

        Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on 9 hours ago
        I like this show. I binged watched it last spring. I think it gets better each season. The humor does get more political, if you’re the type who doesn’t like it, you could keep avoiding it. Its still a good sitcom to me.

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        • I’m guessing that Donald Trump (my mom likes him) is something of a stunt political figure. Man, it’s all bought and sold, had too much vodka, and recycled the news report.

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        • Last Man Standing (2011) : Less political crap this season?

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/flat/248955653?d=248955653#248955653

          After the first two episodes I’ve noticed less political crap and I couldn’t be more excited. I don’t care if people identify with Mike or Ryan, the political crap is a turnoff for at least half of the country. I knew in last night’s episode when Ryan was on there would be some politics mentioned but it wasn’t constant like seasons past.

          Season one was awesome but in season 2 it became Fox News vs. MSNBC and annoyingly so. Glad to see they’ve toned it down thus far. Hope it continues.

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        • http://forums.previously.tv/topic/32075-season-5-discussion/#entry1732268

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          Ever since Amanda Fuller has been in the role, you can’t get behind her in the part. Kris has been written to be: “Poor me, life is so hard.” Not the one who was trying to get her life back on track despite being knocked down in season 1 that Alex Krosney, played so well. I’m sorry but her telling Mandy she was tired of her just breezing through in life was too much. She has been handed a good job not once but twice by an old friend and then her father and Ed. She took Ryan back in almost no time, she has done very stupid decisions with Boyd and yet everyone is: “Oh poor, Kristen, here have some money.” I have officially come to the conclusion that the writers know that Kris can’t be pulled off as either funny or sympathetic by Fuller, but she doesn’t complain about her part or her lines to the TPTB so they keep her and have tried to force the writing to like her. Much like with Mike’s political talk that is out of place and destroys the episodes that focus on it. So, they feel this is the lesser of two evils. I have enjoyed this season much more than last season, but the facts remain. Kristin, Ryan and Boyd are the weakest parts of the show and I think the producers are seeing that now. They just don’t want to loose the sister dynamic of the show even though Fuller with Ephram and Dever and doesn’t pull it off like Krosney did. They know that Ryan and Boyd are hated by the fans and that the kid playing Boyd can’t act and that Jordan Masterson is apparently doing a movie right now so he isn’t in these episodes.
          Amen! Couldn’t agree more with your analysis.

          This show has never figured out what it is about or what it wants to be. A family sitcom? A political one? The show gets decent Friday night ratings but nobody really cares enough about it for anything that happens to matter. Season 1 dynamic was better then what it became but I doubt the ratings reflected that and are skewed by the night change anyway. The show worked best when it is not issue oriented but a simple loving family with characters who were likable, funny, seemed to like and relate to each other. Sorry to tell the producers but Alexandra Krosney was necessary and not replaceable for the above to work. Without her and the shift in tone, none of this show works but again I doubt anybody really cares.

          Can’t see this show doing well in syndication as it is not that funny, not joke-centric enough to be fun to watch, the topical political humor will become more dated with time, the cast chemistry is not great with few likable/relateable characters, and not that interesting a show. So many better choices I can’t see this doing well no matter how many seasons are produced. Given that Home Improvement was such a ratings juggernaut and it doesn’t seem to do well in syndication, I hold little hope for LMS doing well. As an example of the disinterest: A new episode of LMS gets one comment by Readster as compared to pages about The Big Bang Theory (I know not really a fair/even comparison) or The Middle. This is just a who cares? show filling up the schedule and would be invisible in syndication.

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        • Men Upset Show for Men Cancelled

          http://jezebel.com/1795267576

          5/16/17 3:10pm
          My in-laws watch it, so inevitably I end up watching it when they visit. I didn’t think much at first, but a few comments here or there would catch my attention for being aggressively conservative. Like, relating a lying boyfriend to Hillary Clinton. Or complaining to his boss/co-owner about having to pay for “damn Obamacare.” Or calling a woman who didn’t want to shop at his outdoor sports store a “special kind of snowflake.” It felt like the writers or Tim Allen himself was going out their/his way to say, “Look at me, I’m not like the rest of those libtards in Hollywood!” But in a super annoying manner.

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      • S05.E02: Free Range Parents 2015.10.02

        http://forums.previously.tv/topic/32327-s05e02-free-range-parents/#entry1565093

        We’ve seen the last couple of years that LMS changes characters around to fit the plots for the show. Ryan freaking out and admitting the news is propaganda more these days rang true. However, his entire: “Can’t walk home, Boyd will be kidnapped.” Had me rolling my eyes. Of course we know this is a lead up to politics coming up because upcoming episodes have Mike going at Hillary later this season and the Board of Education as stated in an interview for Time Allen: “Has been screwed up since Mr. Peanut took over.” The ratings are good but slipping each season, with the 100 episode mark coming in November, I think this will be the last season for the show.

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        • This show seems a little backwards as far as family roles…

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/thread/249076593?d=249076593#249076593

          It seems to me that this show is simply catering to Tim Allen’s ego. Ok so, here is a grown man who is pretty much some kind of man’s man. And he is this rough and tough gritty gun having meat eating animal hunting such and such. And the show is supposed to be about him feeling out of place in a house full of females. Yet Vanessa, who you would think would be more in touch with her daughters, seems to be a complete idiot who constantly makes the wrong call…while Mike seems to be more in touch with teenage females. I’m not seeing how that is logical. I could see him being closer to Eve since she is a tomboy and all. But how is it possible that everything that goes on with these girls, someone as dude-ish as Mike is supposed to be is more in sync with them than his wife. Its actually kind of annoying.

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      • S05.E03: Ping–pong 2015.10.09

        http://forums.previously.tv/topic/32656-s05e03-ping%E2%80%93pong/#entry1587373

        I seriously wish Nancy Travis would tell the producers either to do something good with her character or she’ll leave the show. Wow! Vanessa voting for Hilary because she is a woman and thinking Chuck did Obama because he’s black. I really am tired of Disney letting Tim Allen have this political view needed for LMS. The show has really lost what made it good. No one came off as relatable. Eve is like: “Hey, who cares about anything, things have been done.” Mike has been purposely losing to Mandy all these years? Seriously? Now, Mike and Ed are co-owners of Outdoor Man? When did this happen? LMS has really fallen so far and I read that the Hilary bashing will continuing. Its like saying: “I’m not voting for so and so because they are in that political party but I don’t want the person who might be in my candidate in office.” So, once again we have Kristin without Ryan or Boyd. Then we have Ryan and Boyd together and not with Kristin? You trying to tell us something writers?

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      • Tim Allen Compares the Clintons to Herpes: ‘Just When You Think They’re Gone, They Show Up Again’

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/28/tim-allen-donald-trump-might-be-able-to-do-the-stuff-that-needs-fixing/

        Actor-comedian Tim Allen blasted Hillary Clinton in a recent interview, comparing her and her husband Bill to a venereal disease while praising Donald Trump as a candidate who “might be able to do the stuff that really needs fixing.”

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      • Tim Allen Predicts Trump Internment Camps on ‘Last Man Standing’

        http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/alexa-moutevelis-coombs/2016/04/08/tim-allen-predicts-trump-internment-camps-last-man

        By Alexa Moutevelis Coombs | April 8, 2016 | 11:54 PM EDT

        Tim Allen’s character Mike Baxter on ABC’s Last Man Standing is well known to be right of center. He spends most of his time taking swipes at Obama and the Clintons, but tonight he took a BIG hit at Donald Trump.

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        • Donald Trump Ruins the Party on ‘Last Man Standing’

          http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/justin-ashford/2016/10/23/donald-trump-ruins-party-last-man-standing

          ABC’s Last Man Standing aired its Halloween special “Trick or Treat,” featuring Donald Trump as the most popular costume, but with a portrayal that was milder than what we’ve been seeing lately from liberal Hollywood.

          Mike Baxter (Tim Allen) doesn’t like Halloween parties, so he gets his family to agree to dressing up as one another in the hopes they’ll annoy each other so much it ruins the party and prevents any future ones.

          As the episode pans out, they all have their counterparts, except Mike. He walks out in a Donald Trump costume, much to everyone’s surprise. Mike loves their reactions and especially wants to get Ryan’s goat, as he is a major liberal.

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    • Tim Allen talks new season of ‘Last Man Standing’ http://bit.ly/1FxrPro via @seanhannity

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    • S05.E04: Educating Boyd 2015.10.16

      http://forums.previously.tv/topic/32693-s05e04-educating-boyd/#entry1614292

      This show doesn’t know what it wants to do or be about. Just seems to want to criticize things in a straw-man fashion. All characters are idiotic or uninteresting save for Mike and usually Eve. There is no continuity in storytelling. A new “issue” each week is brought up and then forgotten. What is the point and where is the humor?

      Hate Ryan, Boyd, and Kristin with a passion. Actively annoyed when I see Ryan and especially Boyd. That kid is awful and just bugs. Hate episodes revolving around Boyd. Ryan is a wet blanket to humor.

      I only watch because I liked season one so much. Hasn’t been good since then. I usually dislike the episode. I should stop watching but I keep coming back for more pointlessness.

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    • Last Man Standing and Dr. Ken Reviewed: “The Road Less Driven” (#5.05) and “Dr. Wendi: Coming to LA!” (#1.04)

      http://nickanddisneyreviewed.blogspot.com/2015/10/last-man-standing-and-dr-ken-reviewed.html

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      • Shipping Wars Are StupidOctober 23, 2015 at 6:39 PM

        http://nickanddisneyreviewed.blogspot.com/2015/10/last-man-standing-and-dr-ken-reviewed.html?showComment=1445650776651#c4329114745970970132

        Oh God. Unknown, my friend, you went there. Last Man Standing…where to begin?

        I guess I should say that I’m a stridently liberal feminist. My sister and a person I consider to be like a brother both serve in the Navy. I’m a Christian but I dislike having faith used in a pandering way or in a shove-it-down your throat way. I prefer to show my faith through my actions.

        I actually left a church I went to through all of high school due to the homophobia, anti Catholic attitudes and the arrogance of several leaders. Much more on that will come when Sean and Christian review Girl Meets Belief.

        I understand that Last Man Standing found its niche audience with conservatives and with evangelical Christians. They brought the Duck Dynasty guys on. They pray. They believe in God. And that’s all great.

        BUT..The problem is the characters, particularly Allen and the youngest daughter, are all terrible people. The thing is, the show is too over the top with the conservatives values.

        Every episode can be summed up like this:

        “Tim Allen’s character is a funny jerk, but he’s right. America is being ruined by liberals like Ryan. The military is greater than anything else.”

        My problem is that Allen’s character has to learn to get along with Ryan and the other supporting characters in every episode. A show about running a Cabellas wannabe store would be WAY more interesting than what this show has become.

        So, I haven’t watched the show in years.

        I do like Nancy Travis though. She’s a delight.

        And Dr. Ken is harmless. I saw like ten minutes of last week’s episode as background noise.

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    • Topic: Last Man Standing is 5 seasons long

      http://www.therealtsm.com/index.php?topic=11377.msg857248#msg857248

      I watched it the first season and liked it well enough. I tuned into the second season premier and he spent the first 10 minutes bashing Democrats. I don’t care if you don’t agree with one political party or not, and if you don’t agree with them, but I don’t need to be beaten over the head for the first part of a sitcom with your political views.

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    • Tim Allen SHUDDERS at the Thought of Another Obama Term (We Do, Too!)

      http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/alexa-moutevelis-coombs/2015/11/15/tim-allen-shudders-thought-another-obama-term-we-do

      By Alexa Moutevelis Coombs | November 15, 2015 | 2:24 PM EST

      In the episode “The Big Sleepover” of Last Man Standing, Eve’s friend has overstayed her welcome at the Baxter household and interfered with Mike’s (Tim Allen) relationship with his daughter. Eve finally finds a way to get her friend to find another place to stay because she doesn’t want her dad “moping around like Obama got a third term.”

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    • Last Man Standing (2011) : Why all the politics?

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/thread/252978533?d=252978533#252978533

      I really like Tim Allen & have always been a fan of Home Improvement which I thought was hilarious so I thought I would give this show a shot but his almost constant quips about Obama, etc are just too much. Home Improvement never had that kind of talk & it clearly did quite well, not sure why he feels it is necessary for this show? I started watching this show when it first started but it almost got to be too much so I stopped; now that Hallmark is showing it from the beginning I decided to give it another go & actually stick with it this time. For the most part this is a cute show but within the first five minutes we have to hear about his objections towards Obama & his administration & it’s just annoying.

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      • Comedian Tim Allen Riles the Liberals, Jokes ‘The Clintons Are Like Herpes’

        http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2016/01/29/comedian-tim-allen-riles-liberals-jokes-clintons-are-herpes

        Comedian Tim Allen, now in a fifth season of his ABC sitcom Last Man Standing, started tongues wagging when he compared the Clintons to herpes in a joke to The Hollywood Reporter.

        Allen is a television rarity in that he’s taken two sitcoms past the 100-episode mark, and this one is also very rare in its appeal to people who like seeing a little Democrat-bashing in their comedy:

        THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: Why has the show gone after Hillary but not Trump?

        TIM ALLEN: It’s a little surprising to me. We have a very liberal writing staff, so I’m surprised they haven’t taken a shot at him. But we’re not sure he’s going to last, whereas the Clintons are like herpes: Just when you think they’re gone, they show up again.

        THR: Didn’t you try a bit about Obama raising the communist flag at the White House that never made it to air?

        ALLEN: We got network notes saying you can’t call the president a communist. So, of course, I really wanted to. I do it in rehearsal all day long.

        Just before that, Allen explained that despite ABC insisting they calm down the scripts about Obama, he felt that his character Mike Baxter is milder than he is:

        THR: How are you different from Mike?

        ALLEN: He’s milder than I am. You wouldn’t want to hear what I have to say. Escalate Mike Baxter with profanity and that’s basically me. He’s much more tepid because he’s a business owner. Mike Baxter is calmed way down, and I’m definitely not that guy.

        THR: What riles you up the most?

        ALLEN: Unearned responses, unearned praise, unearned income: I have opinions about it. When you watch the debates, on both sides you see clowns who say shit that ain’t ever going to happen, but lately one party is the free s–t party. They are just telling people they’re going to get all sorts of free s–t. When you say you’re going to get free education, free health care — free brown loafers — of course everybody’s going to say yes to that. But you don’t mean it. That’s how you rack up debt, and debt is killing us. Whatever party is going to get us out of debt is my party.

        Allen is a fan of John Kasich, but said he would vote for Trump, even though he feels his statements on immigrants were “ignorant….But he might be able to do the stuff that really needs fixing.”

        Then, The Hollywood Reporter published some quotes from executives that had a role in launching Allen’s second sitcom, and several of them addressed the politics and the censorship:

        TIM DOYLE (showrunner/Executive Producer, seasons two through four): “Tim and I started arguing about politics because I’m a huge lefty. I thought, ‘Let’s give Mike Baxter opinions that relate to the real world.’ We wanted to play on the Mitt Romney dog on the car incident by joking that’s how Obama transports Joe Biden. ABC’s standards department said, ‘That is unacceptable to disrespect the vice president.’ There was tons of stuff like that.”

        DANA WALDEN (Fox TV Group chairman and CEO): “That right-leaning, committed to their point of view character? Not really anywhere else on television. It was an underrepresented voice, particularly on broadcast networks. Strategically, that’s who we’re trying to appeal to, the underserved right-leaning audience. But it started organically with the fundamental bones of who Tim’s character is.”

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    • Tim Allen: Obama’s ‘Turned into an Eight-Year Nightmare’

      http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/alexa-moutevelis-coombs/2016/02/05/tim-allen-obamas-turned-eight-year-nightmare

      Maybe ABC got a message from the higher ups that the show Last Man Standing was getting a little too conservative and anti-Obama for their liking. This week for the first time this season, in the episode “Home Sweet Loan,” when Mike Baxter (Tim Allen) gave a great line mocking Obama, his hippy-dippy liberal son-in-law came back with a rejoinder defending him:

      -Mike: I thought you guys were thinking of moving out and buying a house. Boyd would be able to play in a yard instead of going to the park to look at girls’…minds.

      -Kristin: Yeah, we’re not really in a rush. We have a five-year plan.

      -Mike: Well, sometimes, plans don’t work out like that. I had a four-year plan with Obama. It’s turned into an eight-year nightmare.

      -Ryan: My nightmare is being buried alive, and yours is eight years of prosperity? That’s weird.

      -Mike: I just don’t like the guy. Get off my back.

      Ok, so the idea that Obama gave us eight years of prosperity IS a complete joke that had me LOLing – just not in the way the liberal writers were intending.

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    • Why did they change Mike so between season 1 and 2?

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/flat/259199539?p=1

      I just started watching this show on Netflix. I thought the first season was great. I loved how well rounded and complex Mike Baxter was.

      You could tell he was probably conservative leaning, but he wasn’t obnoxious about his politics. He was well educated and well traveled and cultured and was genuinely a great husband and father who would help with things around the house like doing the laundry without any fuss. It was actually refreshing for a sitcom husband.

      But something clearly happened between season 1 and 2, because a lot of these characteristics seemed to disappear. It’s like they tried to turn him into Archie Bunker. He suddenly had the political knowledge one gets from scanning bad headlines, he doesn’t seem as smart anymore. He’s more obnoxious and makes blatantly racist (saying the Laraby’s are going to bring over malt liquor) and sexist (saying that a man sitting in a chair while a woman works is the way things should be) comments.

      There’s a very clear change. I’m only about a third into season 2. Does it ever go back to the genuine charm and humor of season 1, or does it just stay like this? If it’s more of the same I’ll likely just stop watching.

      And before anyone tries to say I’m just hating on it because Mike is conservative, I also can’t stand the baby’s liberal father. Both characters became obnoxious political stereotypes.

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      • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828327/board/flat/259199539?d=259277637#259277637

        Of course people right off the bat assume I’m attacking the show because Mike is conservative. Even though I also said I hated the liberal characters too.

        I thought Mike seemed more like a real character in season 1. He wasn’t a political cartoon. That’s what I hate. I hate lazy topical political humor. It’s just not clever or funny.

        I hate it when people call Obama “Obummer” or “Nobama”. I also hate it when people call Fox News “Faux Noise”. I hate it when people say “Rethuglicans. I hate it when political stereotypes are passed off as humor because it’s just lazy.

        Whereas Mike in season 1 challenged the image of what some people see a Midwestern conservative man as (educated, cultured, genuinely loving to his family), Mike in season 2 plays into all the bad stereotypes of what people think of as the conservative Midwestern man (racist, sexist, oblivious, obnoxious).

        Mike doesn’t seem was smart as he was in season 1. He no longer seems to care or talk about his great adventures traveling the world and absorbing different cultures. He’s just been reduced to the over the top political joke who puts 50 Romney signs in his yard and skits shouts “Nobama” and “Hellary” all day.

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    • ABC Comedy ‘Last Man Standing’ Compares Sore Losers to Hillary Clinton

      http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/karen-townsend/2017/03/17/abc-comedy-last-man-standing-compares-sore-losers-hillary

      By Karen Townsend | March 17, 2017 | 10:26 PM EDT

      In “Heavy Meddle,” Friday night’s episode of ABC’s Last Man Standing, Ryan (Jordan Masterson) and Kristin (Amanda Fuller), the show’s more liberal thinking couple, are worried that Kyle (Christoph Sanders) and Mandy (Molly Ephraim) wouldn’t be smart enough to participate in an escape room challenge.

      After playing a game of Trivial Pursuit with Mandy and Kyle one night, Kristin and Ryan enjoy feeling intellectually superior to the younger couple – you know, like in regular life when liberals mock conservatives as their intellectual inferiors. Discovering that the couple originally invited to take part in an escape room adventure with them couldn’t make it, Mandy and Kyle invited themselves to complete the four member team.

      The joke was on the smarty-pants liberals, though. Mandy and Kyle proved to have plenty of common sense to solve the puzzle hints and ended up solving the mystery and winning the challenge without any help from Kristin and Ryan. They were sore losers. Then Ryan brought in a recent political sore loser into the conversation. As Kyle innocently tried to explain that losing isn’t the end of the world and leads to winning later, Ryan said that “looking at losing as a win” was straight out of Hillary Clinton’s world.

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    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/last-man-standing-canceled-petition_us_591af9cce4b0809be1581aaf?fb_comment_id=1548569385207145_289579511501315

      They tried to bank off of Home Improvement and they failed. It was not as good nor as funny. His heavy conservative political lean should have been dialed way back considering the real current circumstances. But since that is who he is, it wasn’t going to fly anymore. It’s time for him to retire to voice overs, stand-up and movie cameos unless he’s ready to be the butt-end of the jokes from now on…

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  17. Nostalgia Critic: Christmas with the Kranks (2004)

    Appearing on several top 10 worst lists, the time has come to look at one of the most despised Christmas movies of all time.

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  18. 10 Rubbish Movies Directed By Great Actors

    http://whatculture.com/film/10-rubbish-movies-directed-by-great-actors.php/8

    Crazy On The Outside (Tim Allen)

    Ah, Tim Allen. Another comedy star that huge audiences used to love. In Home Improvement and The Santa Clause movies he won our hearts as a hugely funny everyman. As Buzz Lightyear’s voice he continues to charm us, but his live-action stardom has taken a nosedive in recent years. Although even that’s better than his directing career.

    He helmed a single episode of Home Improvement in 1999 before making the giant leap to directing and starring in cinematic parole comedy Crazy On The Outside in 2010. He was surely chuffed at being given this chance to rebuild his stock in Hollywood. The results of this were not pretty.

    The premise was okay (an ex-crook on parole struggling with family life) and the cast was stellar, featuring Sigourney Weaver, Ray Liotta, J.K. Simmons and Kelsey Grammer. Despite all this, the film sucked. Luckily for Allen, most of the criticism blamed the script and not him.

    Notably, though, L.A. Weekly’s Aaron Hillis hated every aspect of the film. He called it “charmless hack work from two sitcom writers [Judd Pillot and John Peaslee], a phoned-in ensemble, and for Allen a vanity role that could certainly be called criminal.” Yikes. Regardless of whose fault this was, Allen hasn’t directed since.

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  19. Cast Of Home Improvement: How Much Are They Worth Now?

    http://www.fame10.com/entertainment/cast-of-home-improvement-how-much-are-they-worth-now/5/

    Tim Allen

    Estimated Net Worth: $80 Million. Now, Tim Allen is a well known actor in Hollywood, but it all started with his breakthrough starring role as Tim Taylor on Home Improvement in 1991. He originally began as a stand-up comedian and it didn’t take long for Allen to make the transition to films beginning with the Christmas classic The Santa Clause and of course landing the huge voice role of Buzz Lightyear for the Toy Story franchise. Over the years he has also appeared in things such as Jungle 2 Jungle, For Richer or Poorer, Galaxy Quest, Big Trouble, The Santa Clause 2, Zoom, The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause, Wild Hogs and so many more. He was most recently seen in the series Last Man Standing and is reprising the role of Buzz Lightyear for Toy Story 4 due out in 2018. His prolific career has earned Allen an incredible $80 million!

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  20. Jonathan Taylor Thomas

    https://www.datalounge.com/thread/16702816-jonathan-taylor-thomas

    First of all the commas are correct.

    Second he left the show TO go to school, which he did not. The OP didn’t say he didn’t go to college or finish school, but he USED that as lie to get out of his contract and he started doing other acting jobs, which quickly dried up or never materialized

    He told Tim Allen that he was leaving so that he could attend college. In reality, however, he left to act in films. He appeared in the 1998 major motion picture I’ll Be Home For Christmas. This film was supposed to be Thomas’ big break into movies. Unfortunately for Thomas, however, the film was a critical and commercial failure. It cost about $30 million to make (not including marketing costs) but only garnered about $12 million in box office receipts.

    He pulled a Shelly Long

    —Anonymous

    reply 11 5 hours ago

    [R22] That’s a lot of the reason they cast Thomas- his resemblance to Tim. Another lady was originally cast as the mom (something Fisher, she was Clint Eastwood’s wife once) and the other two kids were supposed to resemble her. At least the older one with his blond hair.

    —Anonymous

    reply 25 2 hours ago

    I had no idea that Tim Allen was still around, much less starring in a show now in its 5th season.

    —Anonymous

    reply 28 2 hours ago

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  21. Tim Allen He stayed at a resort I worked at. He made one of the waitresses cry while dining in the restaurant. The other diners were laughing while he kept making fun of her. He’s also a cheap ass. He tipped like crap.

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  22. 13 TV Actors Who Peaked In The ‘90s

    http://screenrant.com/tv-actors-peaked-90s/?view=all

    TIM ALLEN (HOME IMPROVEMENT)

    Funnyman Tim Allen was the ultimate sitcom Dad in 1991’s Home Improvement, a show that launched a film career as well. He appeared in ‘90s light comedies The Santa Clause (which got two sequels), Jungle 2 Jungle, For Richer or Poorer and Galaxy Quest (which proved that not all of his films are terrible!). He also became the voice of Buzz Lightyear for the beloved Toy Story franchise.

    However, his comedic reign definitely peaked in the ‘90s – since then, his biggest films have been sequels, and most of his work has been Toy Story-related. He has recently come back to sitcoms with Last Man Standing, a predictable comedy about a man living with his wife and three daughters, but it’s hardly the next Home Improvement. He’ll be back in 2018 for Toy Story 4, and Last Man Standing may be renewed for a sixth season, but Allen’s glory days are firmly in the ‘90s.

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    • Hollywood Hype Machine

      http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodHypeMachine

      Tim Allen. With his pre-teenage life marred by the loss of his father, and his adult years disfigured by drug use, Allen managed to make a name of himself in the stand-up circuit, both on television and record, so that his life can go on the right track. He never conceived himself to be an actor, having stated at one point that he could only act based on “personal experience,” but he eventually found his big break when he became star of the ABC sitcom Home Improvement, which became one of the highest-rated sitcoms of the 1990’s. A chart-topping book from him soon followed, his first major film role, The Santa Clause, became the 4th highest-grossing domestic release of 1994, and then he voiced Buzz Lightyear in a little animated project known as Toy Story, which became a pop-culture behemoth overnight. Hollywood soon began courting him for more film roles, but he turned down most of them due to his limited acting experience. Consequently, his film career began to suffer, as the only studio he received roles from was Disney, who produced both The Santa Clause and Home Improvement and is Allen’s close production partner. During that time, he starred in the Disney films Jungle 2 Jungle and For Richer or Poorer, whose theatrical runs were overshadowed by Allen’s highly-publicized DUI arrest in Michigan, with his troubled past having caught up with him. After Home Improvement was cancelled, he seemed to be heading back on the road to stardom, starring in Galaxy Quest (his only non-Disney project during his hey day) and reprising his role in Toy Story 2, but quickly fell back into recession after starring in a few more forgettable film roles after that. While he hasn’t disappeared from the spotlight completely, thanks to another ABC sitcom, Last Man Standing, his career heights from the 1990’s have long passed.

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  23. Cast Of Last Man Standing: How Much Are They Worth?

    http://www.fame10.com/entertainment/cast-of-last-man-standing-how-much-are-they-worth/?streamview=all

    Tim Allen

    Estimated Net Worth: $80 million. Tim Allen will always be known as “Tim the Tool Man” from Home Improvement. He starred on the ABC sitcom for almost 10 years! Since he hung up his tool belt, he’s continued to take on money making projects like voicing the character of Buzz Lightyear in the Disney/Pixar trilogy, Toy Story, as well as starring in Disney’s The Santa Clause trilogy! He’s also starred in The Six Wives of Henry Lefay, The Shaggy Dog, Zoom, Christmas with the Kranks, Big Trouble, Joe Somebody, For Richer or Poorer, Galaxy Quest and Jungle 2 Jungle. When it comes to television his resume is much shorter, but his two main projects have been huge successes. First as Tim Taylor on Home Improvement and more recently as the main character on Last Man Standing. Tim Allen’s salary per episode for Last Man Standing is reportedly $235,000 and he’s currently worth an estimated $80 million!

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  24. Why has time forsaken Home Improvement?

    http://www.avclub.com/article/why-has-time-forsaken-home-improvement-242973

    The nostalgia beast is a ravenous one, and with each passing day, it chews our pop-culture memories into an increasingly formless web-slurry. With the 1990s digesting within its belly at an incredible rate—accelerated by the Snapchat-length attention spans of former ’90s kids, and intensified by the boundless need for “remember when?” content—it seems we’ve managed to memorialize and/or reboot everything from that decade, worthwhile and not, in record time. Yet even within our incredibly lowered standards of sentimentality—where our merely remembering something is the same as it being memorable—the 25th anniversary of Home Improvement’s premiere passed this week without much beyond the slapdash fanfare of a “Where Are They Now?” slideshow.

    The internet celebrates in its own, SEO-friendly way, of course, and it’s certainly not obligated to commemorate a quarter-century since Tim Allen first grunted about power tools by reflecting on what it all meant. But Home Improvement’s absence from that cultural conversation is combined with the fact that the show is currently airing solely on The Hallmark Channel, where it’s lumped with The Golden Girls and The Brady Bunch in a mid-afternoon block, when only those laid up by hilarious workplace accidents of their own are likely to see it. And it’s a strange afterlife for a show that vied with—and even bested—Friends, Seinfeld, Roseanne, and other widely syndicated, thoroughly picked-over ’90s icons in the ratings. Why has Home Improvement been so largely forgotten?

    Let’s just state the obvious answer: Home Improvement is not a great show. Compared to its contemporaries, the series—launched as part of ABC’s move toward even more family-friendly sitcoms in the wake of its “TGIF” success—lacked the ambition and innovation that made Seinfeld, Roseanne, or even Friends seem so groundbreaking. Instead, Home Improvement was almost defiantly formulaic, the only ground it broke being whatever Allen happened to fall on.

    Based on Allen’s stand-up—where he’d distilled comedy down to its purest essence as a series of caveman grunts—the show was equally simplistic in its storytelling. Allen’s Tim Taylor was like a slightly seedier, more macho Clark Griswold, a tool salesman and TV host with jocular charm, confidence that exceeded his actual abilities, and a tendency to get hurt a lot. Each episode followed a predictable arc: Tim would spar with his wife Jill (Patricia Richardson) over something stupid he did, often as a symptom of his near-fatal manliness. Their three sons—Brad (Zachery Ty Bryan), Randy (Jonathan Taylor Thomas), and Mark (Taran Noah Smith)—would engage in some youthful shenanigan requiring a heart-to-heart lecture by episode’s end. Somewhere in there, Tim would strap a large engine to something, much to the consternation of his assistant Al (Richard Karn); grunting and injuries ensued. Finally, Tim would reach temporary enlightenment after consulting with the shadowy oracle next door, Wilson (Earl Hindman); slightly softer grunting and learning ensued. While the specific circumstances of Tim’s screw-ups varied slightly over eight seasons, this essential rubric did not.

    Still, inventiveness and quality aren’t always factors in nostalgia; as seen in Fuller House, often the opposite is true. And they clearly didn’t factor into the success of Home Improvement’s original, 1991-99 run either, when the show spent the decade in the Nielsen Top 10, even taking the honor of most-watched sitcom—over Seinfeld and Roseanne—in its second and third seasons. While never a critical darling, it nevertheless nabbed quite a few Emmy nominations, including two for Outstanding Comedy Series and four for Richardson. Its popularity was such that then-First Lady Hillary Clinton even seriously considered a guest-starring role, believing it could help her better assimilate among humans. Even at its end, Home Improvement remained such a juggernaut that Allen and Richardson were offered $50 million and $25 million, respectively, to keep it going for a ninth season, which they politely declined.

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  25. It’s called age dear. Happens to the best of us. That is what happens when you don’t use plastic.

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    • Tim Allen Thinks Trump Supporters Are Being Unfairly Bullied By Hollywood Liberals

      http://uproxx.com/webculture/tim-allen-trump-supporters-bullied/

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    • Tim Allen: Hollywood “Hypocritical” for Bashing Trump as a “Bully”

      http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1110584-Tim-Allen-Hollywood-quot-Hypocritical-quot-for-Bashing-Trump-as-a-quot-Bully-quot?s=2a6c3eef5c6d5c1c651476b21ba7165b

      “What I find odd in Hollywood is that they didn’t like Trump because he was a bully,” said Allen. “But if you had any kind of inkling that you were for Trump, you got bullied for doing that. And it gets a little bit hypocritical to me.”

      Tim Allen stopped by Fox News’ The Kelly File on Monday to discuss how Hollywood is reacting to the election of Donald Trump as president.

      Allen, star of ABC’s Last Man Standing, spoke with Megyn Kelly about what he sees is “hypocritical” thinking in the Hollywood elite.

      “I’m not a spokesman for Hollywood, I’m a comedian. So I get to tour around the country and do comedy and I do a show that has a point of view,” he explained.

      Allen said that his character is conservative, but the show is “written by liberals,” to which Kelly replied, “That goes without saying — that’s redundant.”

      “What I find odd in Hollywood is that they didn’t like Trump because he was a bully,” said Allen. “But if you had any kind of inkling that you were for Trump, you got bullied for doing that. And it gets a little bit hypocritical to me.

      “I’m really an anarchist,” he continued. “As a comedian, I don’t want anyone to tell me what to do. Period.”

      Kelly said that if anyone in Hollywood “finds out you support Trump at all, it’s like you smell bad,” adding that she knows several people in the entertainment industry who are conservative but won’t tell anyone for fear of retaliation.

      “You get bullied into a position, but I don’t want to defend the guy,” Allen explained. “To me, he acts like a new talent comedian. These are guys that have great material that have very bad comedy timing. And he’s got terrible timing.”

      Allen referenced a joke by fellow comedian George Lopez about building a wall and the Mexicans building it, but when Trump says it, it sounds to Allen like a joke that doesn’t quite land: “He may in fact be a guy who wants to be funnier than he is.”

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      • 5 Unanswered Questions About ABC’s Cancellation of ‘Last Man Standing’

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/05/16/5-unanswered-questions-about-abcs-cancellation-of-last-man-standing/

        Was the cancellation of the show motivated by politics in any way, either by the series’ own conservative-leaning worldview or by star Tim Allen’s own politics?

        Despite getting this exact question on the conference call, Dungey avoided answering it directly.

        “I cancelled Last Man Standing for the same business and scheduling reasons I cancelled The Real O’Neals, Dr. Ken, The Catch, American Crime,” Dungey said. “It was challenging because it was a steady performer but when we made the decision not to continue with comedies on Friday, that’s where it landed.”

        The Real O’Neals, Dr. Ken and American Crime were ratings disasters (and none of them moved the cultural conversation much, with the exception of O’Neals, which appeared to exist solely to piss off Christians), so there’s no surprise in those cancellations.

        But Last Man Standing was a ratings highlight in its sixth season, which brings up the next puzzling question…

        If comedy “remains a priority” for the network, as it said on Tuesday’s call, why would it cancel its second-highest-rated comedy series?

        Last Man Standing was ABC’s second-highest-rated comedy only behind the critically adored (and decidedly progressive) Modern Family.

        The sixth season finale of LMS drew 6.06 million viewers and a respectable 1.1 rating in its March 31 broadcast, good enough to make it the most-watched primetime program that night in a tie with CBS’ Blue Bloods.

        In fact, the entire sixth season averaged 6.41 million viewers, down just five percent from its previous season, a rare feat for a show at this point in its run. When considering Last Man‘s Friday night time slot, that’s a downright miracle, considering Friday night is where broadcast network shows typically go to die a more prolonged death.

        For comparison, in its second season, Dr. Ken drew an average 4.41 million viewers, down a steep 16.3 percent from its first season. The Real O’Neals fared even worse in its sophomore season, drawing an average of 3.07 million viewers, a drop of 22 percent. Those cancellations were obviously no-brainers.

        Which then begs the question….

        Why did ABC bring back the perpetually low-rated Quantico when it draws one-third of Last Man Standing‘s viewership?

        If you haven’t seen the network’s government spy thriller Quantico, you’re hardly alone. The show’s second season averaged just 2.8 million viewers per episode, down a whopping 35.7 percent in viewership from its first season and an absolutely astonishing 45 percent in the key demo.

        So what to do when faced with these embarrassingly awful figures?

        Dungey confirmed Tuesday that ABC was bringing back Quantico for a third season, albeit with a smaller initial order of episodes.

        We’re “optimistic and excited about it,” Dungey said. She said the smaller episode order would allow the network to “see how it performs for us.”

        Of course, there’s no way the renewal has anything to do with the show’s open hostility toward President Donald Trump and his supporters, right? Right?

        Why would ABC move one of its highly-anticipated flagship series, Marvel’s Inhumans, to Friday night, traditionally a wasteland for unwanted shows?

        Dungey said on the call that the network wants to make Friday night a “destination” for sci-fi and fantasy fans.

        To achieve that, ABC set its long-running fairy-tale series Once Upon a Time at 8 p.m. Friday, followed by Marvel’s Inhumans, a superhero spin-off, and then once Inhumans finishes its run, the network will run Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in its place.

        Here’s the question: Inhumans is set to air its first two episodes in IMAX theaters for two weeks ahead of the show’s launch on TV. It’s ostensibly a high-profile show for the network, and undoubtedly costs a ton of money to produce. Why would the network move this show to the 9 p.m. hour on Friday when it is traditionally the least-watched time on television? And it isn’t just me who has asked this question: “Did ABC Already Doom Marvel’s Inhumans With Its Timeslot?” wondered CinemaBlend’s Mick Joest on Tuesday. Maybe the network just doesn’t believe it’s going to be very good.

        The move to Friday does make at least a little bit of sense for Once Upon a Time; after a stellar first four seasons and a modest drop in Season 5 (and after the departure of most of its core cast members), the sixth season of the fantasy drama averaged just 3.2 million viewers and a 0.94 in the key demo, down 28.3 percent and 31.6 percent, respectively.

        Then again, the network just renewed Once for a total reboot in its seventh season. Why would ABC move its premiere family show from its comfortable Sunday night family slot to be a lead-in for Inhumans? Instead, Sunday nights will begin with America’s Funniest Home Videos, then move to To Tell the Truth, then reality show Shark Tank, and then new Kyra Sedgwick drama Ten Days in the Valley. Which seems an odd sort of lineup for a traditional family TV night.

        Is there any other show in history that has not only retained its audience but has beaten most other comedies of its type that has been cancelled as abruptly? Ever?

        Tim Allen broke his silence Tuesday to say he was “stunned and blindsided” by ABC’s decision. He likely joins many of the fans of his show (at least 138,000), who now feel as if the only family entertainment they could enjoy has been taken off the air, for reasons that can’t possibly boil down to ratings and scheduling.

        A representative for ABC did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but the article will be updated if we hear from them.

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  26. Episode #23 – Wild Hogs

    http://www.flophousepodcast.com/2008/09/episode-23-wild-hogs/

    We’re joined by comedian and writer Ritch Duncan to talk about Wild Hogs, the movie that posits that middle aged actors on motorcycles is inherently funny. Meanwhile, Elliott does his scarily accurate Ray Liotta laugh, Dan delves into John Travolta’s tortured …

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  27. Why Hollywood Won’t Cast Tim Allen Anymore

    http://www.looper.com/36421/hollywood-wont-cast-tim-allen-anymore/

    Tim Allen’s success on the standup circuit led to him starring on the long-running sitcom Home Improvement, which gave him nationwide fame and led to eventually star as the voice of Buzz Lightyear in Disney’s beloved Toy Story movies. This, and the success of another Disney franchise, The Santa Clause, seemed to signal that Allen’s meteoric career would never stop ascending. Since appearing in the 2007 ensemble comedy Wild Hogs, however, he’s rarely been seen on the big screen. What happened to the convict-turned-comedian-turned-movie star? Here are some of the reasons why Hollywood won’t cast Tim Allen in movies anymore.

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    • This is probably going to come across as a way too simplistic answer, but Tim Allen in a way, peaked too early. He is the only actor to have the top selling book, number one TV show and the number one movie at the same time.

      Also, when you get right down to it, his movie career was never very successful, save for “The Santa Clause” and “Toy Story” movies. I know that “Wild Hogs” when it was initially release, was a big box office hit, but it has in recent years, seemed to become one of those “forgotten blockbusters” like the old website The Dissolved used to write about.

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    • Why Hollywood Won’t Cast Tim Allen Anymore

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  28. tim allen career is similar to mike myers bulk of their hits come from ceartin trigoly of movies. mike myers bread and butter comes from waynes world,shrek or Austin powers. the only hit he had outside those flicks was his small part in inglouries bastards. when he plays a role outside of those like love guru or so I married ax murder no one is interested. plus no one saw shrek for him he has no box office power

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    • I actually rented “So I married an Axe Murderer” after it came out on video (the title interested me). I actually kind of like it, especially the film’s soundtrack. Thing is, another film was released in 1993 that I feel is similar in some ways, which is “Hexed”.

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    • I think that comparing Tim Allen to Mike Myers is a bit of a stretch. Are you saying that the “Santa Clause” trilogy is in essence, Tim Allen’s “Austin Powers” trilogy. Or is “Toy Story” his “Shrek”!? And you can’t really say that Myers truly benefited from being in “Inglorious Bastards” beyond reminding people that he was still around.

      And plus, Tim Allen never had a long history of being extremely difficult to work w/ to the point in which he was in effect, blacklisted like Myers. It’s much easier, regardless to narrow down the bulk of Mike Myers’ filmography since he doesn’t have a whole lot of credits under his belt to begin with.

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  29. the only part iam comparing the two is they both needs their franchise to lean on when other flicks flopped.inglroious bastards did mike a chance to appear in a hit outside his franchises. plus it was great follow up to love guru. I would call it a minor comeback at best . I think tim knows his range which is why he is going back to tv. tim knew he was not an actor . I get the feeling after wild hogs tim relized he had enough money and wanted to take it easy which is he took an easy tv schduale for money .hes also not exactly the producers top choice for comic roles because he is not bankable outside the franchise. honestly he never really transalted to the movies well his bating average is pretty poor. movie audience have never really accepting him in the big screen. tv is more his forte his comic persona fits better in that area seems like audience like him better there given last man sanding is a hit

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    • Tim Allen will always have “Galaxy Quest” though; Never give up, never surrender.

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      • I legitimately wonder where Tim Allen goes from the cancellation of “Last Man Standing”? But the immediate looks of things, he’s being set up by his supporters/most die hard fans and followers as some sort of right-wing/conservative values martyr.

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        • I don’t know if there’s much of a career for him with that; seemed like that worked for a character he played, but I don’t know if it would wash otherwise. Sounds too much to me, if he went in that direction, too much like what Charlie Sheen tried to do when he was acting out a few years ago and took himself on tour.

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  30. that film was a modest hit . it had more success in video sales. its a cult favourite wild hogs was his only hit outside of the 2 franchises. isn’t that right lebeau

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    • It may have been a modest hit, but I believe the majority of those who viewed it believe it to be an excellent film, and well worth the time for all the performers who participated in it. For Tim Allen, it wasn’t like playing a role in “Who is Cletis Tout?” either (I like that film, but I doubt it’s even considered a cult favorite).

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  31. leebau was galaxy quest a box office hit seems more minor hit to me

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  32. I never cared for the film. I iam huge fan of home improvement but to me tim allen is not a great actor. he is funny comiden but cannot really disappear in role.all his roles are personas of his stand comic routine. I do not consider him actor more comdien . he worked a lot so his career is not that bad audience never really warmed up to him on the big screen I think small screen fits him better. wild hogs was his only hit outside those franchises.

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    • I don’t consider Tim Allen an actor either (nor do I think he does), but I feel differently about “Galaxy Quest”, and I’m not even that huge into Sci-Fi (or Syfy, he he).

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    • Tim Allen for a lack of a better word, seems more like a personality (who plays variants of the lovable dolt/every-man) than an “actor” if you want to put it that way. It’s just that I don’t know if Tim could ever really evolve beyond his regressive shtick.

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      • That sounds about right to me, that Tim Allen is more a personality than an actor, which is fine. Heck, some trained actors are just personalities.

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      • More to the point, in regards to “Last Man Standing”, right leaning comedy like that usually consists of jokes about how dumb the government is and how cool guns are. Its stale. It’s just plain boring, cliched and predictable.

        Take a look instead at “Parks & Recreations” for a better idea of handling that sort of thing. The Ron Swanson character worked because he was the stereotypical libertarian who also had hardcore Democrat Leslie Knope to play off of. And they still at the end of the day, respected the hell out of each other.

        Tim Allen on the other hand, occasionally added some liberal dweeb as a straw-man, who always lost because Tim knew about the “good ole days”. In essence, Tim had to have give himself some sort of hero complex on “LMS”.

        Maybe his wife played by Nancy Travis, should have been a MASSIVE character to play off and she never was. If anything, Tim needed a Democrat who would win every once in a while and not just be a joke.

        http://www.looper.com/65904/untold-truth-last-man-standing/

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  33. to each their own . if u compare him to eddie murphy and jim carrey 2 actors with no acting training started off as stand comics tim ne ver really devolped his range or became a draw like those did. I do not think tim eevr wanted to be an actor . tim knows his range

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    • Yeah, Eddie Murphy and Jim Carrey have offered more versatility than Tim Allen, and I agree that Allen seems to know his limitations. No point in not playing to your strengths, I guess.

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  34. yes tim never tried to be an actor. he stuck with his comfort zone . no one cared tim could not act cause he never tried to act .

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  35. I never saw red belt . tim allen is funny guy he made me laugh on home improvement but most movies he brings his standup comic persona on screen . unlike other actors tim does not really get flack for playing same guy because he is aware of his limations mentioned in interviews his lack of range plus never really tried being actor. I feel that’s why jerry never acted after Seinfeld is because like tim he probably also knew his range. Seinfeld like a lot of stand up who get their own sitcom it was based on his standup persona so he never had to really act just be himself. I think tim and jerry same level acting wise

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  36. Richard Sisemore

    Best actor best shows… Nothing else has to be said

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  37. Tim Allen suggests that Hollywood liberals are the real fascists

    http://www.avclub.com/article/tim-allen-suggests-hollywood-liberals-are-real-fas-252346

    Things are tough out there for the honest, good-natured, conservative-leaning men of America. Just because they voted for Donald Trump, continue to support his bigoted and deadly policies, and feel comfortable waving away the darker implications of things like his Muslim ban or border wall doesn’t mean that they’re bad people. It just means that their political opinions happen to line up with neo-Nazis and so-called Christians who would rather kill the poor than actually spend a dime to help another living soul. There’s nothing wrong with that, and if you have the nerve to suggest that there is, then you’re the one who is the real intolerant piece of shit.

    Just ask Tim Allen, the famous sitcom star who thinks that being a conservative in Hollywood is like living in Germany in the 1930s. He said that as a joke on a recent episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, but a Washington Post story explains that it’s not much of a joke to Allen or to a “clandestine support group” of other Hollywood conservatives who are frightened of being “excommunicated from the church of tolerance.” The piece also quotes older interviews with Allen where he said people should “forget the stupid shit [Trump] says about immigrants,” because it’s “just ignorant” and should apparently be ignored if Trump can “do the stuff that really needs fixing.”

    He has also knocked Trump as an amateur with “very bad comic timing” in the past, but that’s the same sort of half-hearted, disingenuous bullshit that a lot of Hollywood conservatives like Allen (and Arnold Schwarzenegger) love to say when it comes to Trump. It lets them pretend like they’re enlightened while still avoiding the actual concrete issues that people have with Trump and his racist cronies, but when they catch a whiff that someone might think less of them for supporting Trump, they get to act all high and mighty for exposing someone else’s “intolerance.”

    Allen’s line about 1930s Germany may have been tongue-in-cheek, but comments like that normalize the behavior of Trump’s more extreme supporters because it makes it seem like criticizing their beliefs is somehow worse than the dangerous and hateful things they believe. Attitudes like that helped get Trump elected in the first place, and now it’s more important than ever to call people on their shit when they deserve it. Maybe Tim Allen and his conservative snowflake buddies don’t like feeling judged for being a conservative in Hollywood, but that’s just too bad.

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    • ‘You’ve gotta be real careful around here’: Tim Allen says Hollywood is like ‘1930s Germany’ for conservative actors as he appears on Jimmy Kimmel’s show

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4329902/Hollywood-like-1930s-Germany-conservative-actors.html

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      • Tim Allen Compares Being Conservative In Hollywood To Living In ‘1930’s Germany’ And It Doesn’t Go Over Well

        http://uproxx.com/webculture/tim-allen-conservative-hollywood-germany/

        Tim Allen was on Jimmy Kimmel Live this week and while it seemed to be a harmless appearance when it aired, The Washington Post picked it up and pointed out that it highlights a certain experience for some in Hollywood. This quote, in particular, stood out for many and caused a stir online Saturday:

        “You get beat up if you don’t believe what everybody else believes. This is like ’30s Germany.”

        It’s not a secret that being a Conservative in Hollywood keeps you on the outside usually and Allen’s comments did garner quite the laugh at the time. The conversation started with started with Allen’s invitation to the inauguration, but soon went to the topic causing trouble. Most folks on Twitter were quick to respond and point out his arrest for cocaine in the late ’70s and others took offense to the comedian using Nazi Germany as a comparison for the plight of the right wing celebrity.

        Now while none of this is surprising and is far from the first time Tim Allen has talked being a Conservative in Hollywood or has said something offensive, The Washington Post shows that it does highlight a growing feeling for many in show business. His joke on Kimmel seems to hit on something that plenty seem to feel, including members of the Friends of Abe:

        Allen, who plays a vocal conservative on his sitcom, “Last Man Standing,” has been one of few in Hollywood to speak openly about his right-leaning views.

        Another 2,500 of his colleagues feel so stigmatized that they have joined a clandestine support group, according to a Los Angeles Times article profiling retribution and secrecy forced upon “the vast majority of conservatives who work in entertainment.”

        “In 30 years of show business, I’ve never seen it like this,” an unnamed actor told the outlet. “If you are even lukewarm to Republicans, you are excommunicated from the church of tolerance.”

        The Post notes that Allen has been wishy washy on his stance for Donald Trump, telling Fox News that he compared to Trump to amateur comedian and “didn’t want to defend the guy.” But in an interview with Megyn Kelly, Allen defended Trump supporters in Hollywood and called the “bullying” they seemed to face “hypocritical.”

        Allen’s comments and standing are likely enhanced due to the controversial nature of the Trump administration. Conservatives in Hollywood are nothing new and it hasn’t always affected them in the past. Clint Eastwood is still directing films despite talking to his chair at the Republican National Convention. But those views have typically been able to fly under the surface for many and are now being teased out due to the extreme response from all sides on Trump. That’s the only logical reason a Tim Allen chat with Jimmy Kimmel can become fodder on a Saturday for The Washington Post. Some would rather remember Tim Allen in a way that he’s still beloved for:

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    • Tim Allen Compares Being a Conservative in Hollywood to Living in ’30s Germany

      https://www.datalounge.com/thread/18584025-tim-allen-compares-being-a-conservative-in-hollywood-to-living-in-%E2%80%9930s-germany

      Typical conservative. Hypocritical belief that standing up to the oppressor is oppression, with absolutely no sense of historical context.

      —Anonymous

      reply 6 18 hours ago

      Argh, yet another Fox News ignoramus.

      Hollywood shuns you because you support a lying, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, corporate-interest puppet hell bent on destroying our environment, taking away people’s healthcare, chipping away at our civil rights and liberties all in an effort to funnel money directly to the rich 1%.

      Who wants to hire an a**hole who supports that?

      Bottom line Allen is just another bible thumper like Kirk Cameron, Chuck Norris and Chris Pratt…so brainwashed by Republican/Christian dogma they’ll support anyone they put up, even though they are the antithesis of Christ’s teachings.

      Bill Maher was so f***ing right when you talked about this hypocrisy on his show.

      —Anonymous

      reply 141 7 hours ago

      So, during the 1930s, most Germans were multimillionaires? i had no idea! Hitler really did oversee an economic miracle!

      —Anonymous

      reply 15 17 hours ago

      Oh, poor Tim. How does he manage to leave his multi-million dollar mansion every morning and go to his highly paid acting job?

      —Anonymous

      reply 16 17 hours ago

      So, being a conservative in Hollywood gets you a role in the most beloved animated film franchise ever, a long running hit sitcom in the 90’s, the lead role in a cult sci-fi classic, another long running sitcom currently on the air where the network let the writers take numerous potshots at Obama, and a 90’s family film classic.

      Yeah, Tim, you’re really struggling.

      —Anonymous

      reply 20 16 hours ago

      Nazis targeted people based on religion/race, so yeah, clearly it’s liberals and not Trump/Bannon/Miller who don’t conjure images of Nazi Germany.

      A rich white guy with a criminal background whining like a b**** and showing his sense of entitlement – Republicans in a nutshell.

      —Anonymous

      reply 33 10 hours ago

      He gets handsomely paid for a show that is almost 100% right wing propaganda and yet he claims to be oppressed for his political beliefs.

      —Anonymous

      reply 35 10 hours ago

      I’m not a Jew or a German. However I do know this: Tim Allen’s assertions are wrong on so many different levels it’s appalling. I am old enough to remember seeing survivors of Nazi Germany’s hate. I remember seeing their tattoo serial numbers on their arms and asking my dad “why?” Shame on you Tim Allen. You have NO idea what life was like who victims of the Third Reich

      —anonymous

      reply 45 2 hours ago

      This is the new conservative culture of being a victim. Conservatives see themselves as victims even though they are in the majority in the US. Christians believe that their religion is under attack from all sides, even though they are by far the majority religion in the US. And they have the nerve to call liberals “snowflakes”.

      —Anonymous

      reply 46 2 hours ago

      This guy doesn’t know from bullying. What a fing loser piece of s to compare the strident questioning of his fellow actors to what the German people who didn’t agree with Hitler suffered. Shame on his stupid a**. Never liked him.

      —Anonymous

      reply 47 2 hours ago

      His net worth is 80 million dollars. The indignities that he has suffered in the leftist cesspool of Hollywood are incalculable. I assume he firmly believes he should be a billionaire and has been shorted due to his conservative views.

      Two Sitcoms. Cartoon voice-over work. Santa Claus movies. how can he possibly be worth ONLY 80 million dollars? I’m sure that he and Patricia Heaton (net worth 40 million dollars) get together and bemoan all those Oscar winning parts they lost to Meryl Streep and Tom Hanks because they’re Republicans.

      —He’s delusional. And he has the money to be told he’s not. Period.

      reply 53 an hour ago

      Not being invited to Malibu parties is not being “bullied.”

      An ex-felon’s starring in several television shows is not “like ’30s Germany.”

      I guess Tim Allen wants Dennis Miller’s “career.”

      —Anonymous

      reply 57 an hour ago

      I saw exactly one scene of his stupid show: his (white) wife had a Mexican maid, who was working as one of the wife’s friends, a black woman, came over for tea. His wife feels guilty about the maid so she makes the maid sit down with the friend and have tea while she does all the chores. Tim comes in, sees the white woman doing chores with the black and Mexican women sitting and having tea, and “jokes” that “there’s something wrong with this picture.”

      Therefore, I submit to Tim Allen that he is a disgusting human being, and I wish upon him the worst kind of ass cancer an angry god has to give.

      —Anonymous

      reply 60 31 minutes ago

      He’s making a lot of money on a shitty, derivative sitcom with a middling audience share (almost almost no non-broadcast viewers). The show’s been long enough to be syndicated for reruns–it won’t be a Seinfeld, but Allen probably will never have to work again. I doubt that Jews, gays, dissidents, etc. had the same opportunities in the 30s.

      —Anonymous

      reply 64 7 minutes ago

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      • http://tvline.com/2017/05/10/last-man-standing-cancelled-abc-no-season-7/#comment-list-wrapper

        May 11, 2017 at 10:12 PM

        Some FACTS in all of this.

        This day and age of television is not like years ago. It is well established that Friday night television is the biggest wasteland except for Saturday night. Growing up the in 80s, Saturday night TV gave us classics like the Golden Girls, The Facts of Life, etc.

        LMS was considered on the bubble for many years. It did not even seem like it was going to make it the first year or two. But it did move along until syndication. The goal for any show these days is to make it into syndication, and LMS made it there. IF a show is produced by the network studio, there is more of a likelihood that they will keep it around another year if it is on the bubble. LMS was a Fox produced show, and there was a dispute over the money, basically. The same thing happened to Mike and Molly.

        They had decent ratings and a solid fan-base AND a star who is doing quite well for herself. CBS reduced the number of episodes and pretty much burned the series off because they weren’t willing to spend the money on another studio’s product. There was an excellent series a few years ago on NBC called Harry’s Law which starred the talented Kathy Bates, was critically acclaimed and got good ratings. However, it got axed because the demographics were not “young enough”. I could go on and on, but the moral of the story is that shows that do relatively well are not spared in this day and age of television. Being a Jay Leno fan, I will miss the show because it allowed me to see Jay on at least a somewhat regular basis.

        Now as far as the other arguments. You all do realize that Patricia Heaton is a very outspoken conservative and her ABC show is going into its ninth season? You also do realize that The Real O’Neals, whose creator is a gay rights advocate, was also canceled? The truth is that LMS was expendable because ABC was not willing to take it one more year. It had a decent run of six years. Family Ties, which featured a conservative main character in the age of Reagan, was on for seven seasons, one more year than LMS. Tim Allen said something very insensitive a few weeks ago. However, unlike what happened with the Robertson family, ABC did not comment on this, Tim Allen was not made to apologize, etc. There was some well-deserved criticism about his comments comparing Hollywood to the 1930s, but it did not cause a firestorm.

        This is not called show loyalty, this is called SHOW BUSINESS. They made a business decision based upon money. I personally do not care for the way that networks do business these days, but I have little control over it. I just do not get attached to shows, they could be gone tomorrow. LMS had a nice run and should be congratulated. It lasted a lot longer than other shows. This is not about Tim or his views outside of the show, it was a business decision. A business decision, in fact, that happens to bigger shows than these. If you don’t like it, many of us do not. Cheers or Seinfeld would not make it these days. I have seen many fine shows over the years get the axe without a real chance. Be happy that LMS had a decent run and will be seen for years to come in syndication.

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        • http://forums.previously.tv/topic/57325-canceled/?do=findComment&comment=3275849

          1- Tim’s contract keeps growing year over year and as shows age the network takes on more of the price tag. With this not being owned by ABC that meant they weren’t getting the back-end of syndication money.

          2- Not owned by ABC and the recent trend has been vertical synergy for all the broadcasts

          3- it’s just creatively ran out of juice.

          (All of the above apply to 2BG as well)

          4- It seems ABC is either dropping the Friday comedy block (OUAT maybe since lower ratings are acceptable on Friday?) or they are breaking up the Tuesday block for the two Marvel shows). My vote is on the former as they’ll just slot in speechless or blackish into Tuesday’s and have a new comedy premiere on Wednesday.

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        • http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/106227527.html?page=2#comments

          saemcrh
          May 16th, 2017, 06:30 pm
          You know these viewers identified strongly with Tim Allen and saw those characters as liberal crybabies.

          *is basing this on one ep I saw lol.

          copulates
          May 16th, 2017, 07:33 pm
          i could maybe appreciate that some of the characters exist to argue with time allen’s republican views, but it was almost always used to make fun of any non-christian/republican ideas. there’s a christmas ep where the daughter’s baby daddy (who’s jewish iirc) has to correct tim allen about his religion’s cultures, and tim allen continues to make fun of it instead. or the ep where he has to give a speech to his daughter’s school and she has to correct him for not being pc. instead of learning from it, he continues to berate liberals and their crazy ideas~

          ireadyou_right
          May 16th, 2017, 06:01 pm
          Whiniest f***ing babies.

          I heard this show on in the background somewhere the other day for the first time and tim f***face allen was talking about gay bullying? And how it’s okay to call someone gay as long as they’re not REALLY gay. Omfg, I wanted to kill myself.

          elliotalderson
          May 16th, 2017, 06:04 pm
          I’m amused about how big babies these people are and yet they like to call liberals snowflakes.

          Two of my aunts are upset that this show was canceled, I know through their likes. If any of them share it, I cannot wait to tear them a new one. It was obvious canceled for Tim’s stupid 1930s Germany comment.

          bruxelles
          May 16th, 2017, 06:45 pm
          I’m surprised E4 even thought anyone would be interested in watching it. It’s such a conservative Middle America show that I can’t imagine anybody outside of that very specific demographic enjoying it.

          urfave
          May 16th, 2017, 08:11 pm
          mte. from the adverts alone it looked like sexist trash, and it turns out it’s even worse than i first thought. their demographic is mostly young people and it was on at a time when mostly students are viewing too lol. who knows what they were thinking…

          thankfully it was replaced w the superior B99 on their schedule!

          chocobeans
          May 16th, 2017, 06:12 pm
          So, because the show didn’t include a bunch of token minorities, didn’t say all people should be treated with respect, didn’t explicitly state that someone was anything other than heterosexual, and showed that ~men could be be ~men, it was a good, classic American show?

          Ugh, I thought it was only on for three seasons too. Can’t believe they canceled Reba’s show before this one.

          bruxelles
          May 16th, 2017, 06:37 pm
          I like how shows not making lazy, unfunny jokes about immigrants and millennials is apparently “constantly shoving liberal ideals down the throats of the viewers”

          notoriousreign
          May 16th, 2017, 06:45 pm
          lol what a bunch of crybabies.

          I had it on an episode in the background once and the way Tim’s character talked about homeless people was so…. vile…. Jesus Christ I had to change it immediately and generally I can sit through dumb sh**.

          phoenix_singing
          May 16th, 2017, 07:21 pm
          LOL. Liberals fight for people, conservatives fight for TV shows.

          I’m glad I never watched this because it sounds terrible. Seriously, any show that anyone would describe as one of the only shows “not shoving liberal ideals down the throats of the viewers” is not something I care to watch.

          (And six seasons is very solid for a sitcom, so even if it was the best show ever they’d still need to just put on their big-kid pants and deal with it. Bunch of snowflakes.)

          redstar826
          May 16th, 2017, 08:52 pm
          When it first came out, it seemed like a mildly cute sitcom (nothing special, but fine playing in the background as you clean your house etc), but seems like Tim Allen’s character got worse and worse as time went on

          ayumidah
          May 17th, 2017, 05:15 am
          Haha, it did, especially towards the tail end of the Obama administration… I watched it because I loved Kyle and the middle daughter, and was kind of bracing myself for a bunch of snarkiness after Trump won… but lo and behold, I think there were maybe two political jokes made and those were in the last couple of episodes, so there were like ten episodes that were actually very low in political content. I was surprised.

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      • The real reason Last Man Standing was canceled

        http://www.looper.com/65478/real-reason-last-man-standing-canceled/

        Some think politics played a part

        After Last Man Standing’s cancellation was announced, rumor quickly spread that ABC pulled the plug because of Allen’s conservative politics. The show’s premise rested on an old school guy who rails against PC culture and wishes we could go back to the days when men were men, and some feel the network wanted to distance themselves from that conservative viewpoint.

        In real life, Allen is a proud Republican. At a Q&A before the sixth season, he talked about how excited he was to make fun of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, and when asked about her run for the presidency, he said “It will be horrible [for me] personally if Hillary continues, but it will be great for the storyline.” In 2017 on Jimmy Kimmel Live, he compared being Republican in Hollywood to living in 1930s Germany.

        Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker tweeted his support to Allen, stating “Looks like ABC is playing politics with your show despite decent ratings. Sad.” Conservative pundit Glenn Beck chimed in during his online radio show, vowing “to start looking into why this show got canceled.” Whether or not the rumors are grounded in reality, they’re likely to persist as part of the narrative surrounding Last Man Standing’s cancellation.

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  38. ‘I’m not the same guy’: Tim Allen recalls his time in prison for drug trafficking as he says ‘I’m extremely grateful for where I am today’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4368640/Tim-Allen-recalls-prison-stint-drug-trafficking.html

    Actor’s criminal past

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    • I think it’s great that Tim Allen found his niche; it takes a few colors to make a rainbow, and we all come from somewhere. I think smuggling offers too many risks; comedy is definitely the way to go.

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  39. Tim Allen Comedy ‘Last Man Standing’ Canceled By ABC After 6 Seasons

    http://deadline.com/2017/05/last-man-standing-canceled-by-abc-after-6-seasons-1202089263/

    It was considered the perfect sitcom for the Trump era, hitting ratings highs in its sixth season. But that didn’t save Last Man Standing from a cancellation today.

    ABC has opted not to renew the longtime Friday 8 PM anchor for Season 7. The Tim Allen-starring multi-camera sitcom often had gone down to the wire on renewals, with ABC and producing studio 20th Century Fox TV wrangling over the series’ license fee. (ABC is supposed to cover the cost of the show at this point in its run, and LMS is on the higher end for a multi-camera sitcom because of the marquee salary Allen commands.) This time, there was no last-minute bargaining, with ABC deciding against another season.

    With a central character who is a political conservative and devout Christian adhering to traditional American values, the blue-collar comedy appeals to viewers in the Heartland, a constituency that helped elect Donald Trump as president and has been energized post-election as evidenced by the ratings success of new USA drama Shooter.

    That was also a swath of America ABC had been looking to reflect better, especially on the drama side, as the network’s entertainment president Channing Dungey had noted.

    In its sixth and final season, Last Man Standing averaged a very respectable for any night, especially Friday, 1.2 Live+same day rating in adults 18-64 and 6.4 million viewers, often winning its 8-8:30 PM time slot.

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      • Did Tim Allen’s Nazi Germany Joke Help Kill ‘Last Man Standing’?

        http://www.thewrap.com/last-man-standing-canceled-tim-allen-nazi-germany-joke/

        After six seasons, Tim Allen‘s ABC sitcom “Last Man Standing” stands no more.

        The Disney-owned broadcaster canceled the “Home Improvement” alum’s Friday series ahead of next week’s TV upfronts event, despite “Last Man’s” steady ratings from last year. While a 1.6 Nielsen number in the key 18-49 demographic is generally nothing to write home about — especially when that includes a week of delayed viewing, as this one does — it’s not bad at all for a Friday.

        Actually, it’s pretty darn good. Also good? A sitcom with half-a-dozen seasons under its belt not even losing one-tenth of a ratings point season over season.

        So why did Channing Dungey show her Michigan-loving comic the exit door?

        Some may wonder if it’s his politics — Hollywood is a liberal playground, and Allen — a noted Republican — very publicly doesn’t roll that way. Or it could be because of one ill-received quip he made two months ago.

        On a March episode of “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” Allen told Kimmel that being a Republican in Hollywood today is “like 1930s Germany. You gotta be real careful around here, you know. You’ll get beat up if you don’t believe what everybody believes.”

        That didn’t go over so well with many, in and outside of Hollywood.

        The Anne Frank Center called Allen’s comparison “deeply offensive” and said it “trivializes the horrors imposed on Jews in Nazi Germany.”

        “Tim, have you lost your mind?” said Steven Goldstein, executive director of the Anne Frank Center. “No one in Hollywood today is subjecting you or anyone else to what the Nazis imposed on Jews in the 1930s — the world’s most evil program of dehumanization, imprisonment and mass brutality, implemented by an entire national government, as the prelude for the genocide of nearly an entire people.”

        Added Goldstein: “Sorry, Tim, that’s just not the same as getting turned down for a movie role. It’s time for you to leave your bubble to apologize to the Jewish people and, to be sure, the other peoples also targeted by the Nazis.”

        At the time, ABC declined to comment on Allen’s comment to TheWrap, referring inquiries to Allen. His team did not immediately respond to a request for comment on his Nazi Germany comparison.

        An ABC rep did not immediately respond to TheWrap‘s request for further explanation on why “Last Man Standing” has been shut down. Allen’s team also did not respond to a request for comment.

        Check out tweets below from people wondering whether the actor’s incendiary comments may have impacted the show’s fate.

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        • Tim Allen for a lack of a better word, seemed to essentially use “Last Man Standing” as a thinly covered soapbox against Barack Obama and his administration. But now that Obama is out of office and Donald Trump is president, Tim pretty much no longer had a proverbial “boogie man” to go against. Therefore, it became more apparent that Tim was just “preaching to the choir” (hence, there’s already any more true conflict to give) since those on the opposite side of the spectrum are no longer in power.

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        • http://tvline.com/2017/05/10/last-man-standing-cancelled-abc-no-season-7/#comment-list-wrapper

          May 10, 2017 at 11:42 PM
          To those mourning LMS:
          1. Try “The Middle.” Much funnier show, with a traditional family setting and totally relatable characters. You’re missing out on it if you haven’t seen it yet.

          Modern Family has Emmys. LMS didn’t. And Emmys usually translates into money. And despite what some of you think, it’s not the gay aspect. It’s more than that – it’s the blended family aspect (which is what half of the population today have and could relate to) that keeps the viewers coming back. It’ll be in syndication for years. I don’t foresee the same strength for LMS – in about 10, 20 years, the themes will be outdated.
          Money talks. Fridays is not the night any TV network would want to schedule a show they believe in on. As the article indicated, LMS has a 1.5 rating. And the fact that despite its strong performance on Fridays for 6 years it continued to be outpaced by better-scheduled and better rated shows…that says a lot about what ABC thought of the show.
          I believe Tim Allen did play a role in the demise of LMS. Remember the tenor of the time now? The last thing people today want to watch is a TV sitcom that is politically-centric. That’s why shows like The Big Bang Theory, The Middle, and to a lesser extent Modern Family rules supreme in the ratings.
          Disclaimer: I’m a moderate liberal and most of my family is right wing nuts. I do like certain aspects of the show, but there are a couple of characters I found insufferable.
          So my condolences on the loss of your show. I know you love this show, and I think in time you’ll find something else to your liking. Maybe I’ll like it as well. Who knows? 🙂

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        • http://tvline.com/2017/05/10/last-man-standing-cancelled-abc-no-season-7/#comment-list-wrapper

          May 11, 2017 at 11:43 AM
          Of course they had to cancel it. Those of us naive enough to think that Mike’s uninformed political statements and knee-jerk parenting were send-ups of a foregone era of Americana have been disillusioned by real-life events, showing that otherwise intelligent and likable people -our neighbors- listen to political entertainment shows and accept their diatribes without the slightest bit of analysis and corroboration are extant in huge numbers, not merely the occasional out-of-touch older relative. It’s not funny now, because it is true and horrible. Who could be smart enough to write for the show, yet have the callousness to do so?

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      • Angry conservatives call for boycott of ABC after network cancels highly rated sitcom Last Man Standing starring pro-Trump actor Tim Allen

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508058/ABC-s-canceling-Man-Standing-prompts-boycott-calls.html

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        • Tim Allen by Season 2 onward, seemed to want to do a 21st century version of All in the Family. However, what he didn’t seem to truly grasp is that what made Archie Bunker work was that his ideas were portrayed as buffoonish and from a perspective of ignorance. It’s a much different matter entirely when you portray an “Archie” as a common man of keen insight, who conveys his wisdom through clever one-liners. Therefore, it made it sound like what Mike Baxter was saying was in effect, “truth to power” and everybody who disagreed with him was more or less, in the wrong.

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        • http://www.avclub.com/article/fox-tv-find-manlier-home-canceled-tim-allen-sitcom-255605#comment-3313255768

          I accidentally saw five minutes of this one time and all it was was Tim Allen and his TV wife mocking and arguing with the TV daughter’s new boyfriend, who was a strawman liberal college student sarcastically mocking them for not being vegans and communists. It seemed kind of out of tune with the Tim Allen of Home Improvement who was painted as being a well-meaning idiot and whose “manliness” seemed implicitly apolitical and more along the lines of what one would expect from the Little Rascals.

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      • http://forums.previously.tv/topic/57325-canceled/?do=findComment&comment=3311841

        However, back to the show, interesting what Tim Allen said about ABC after 6 years calling home basically just pulled the plug on everything. I think at this point in his career, Allen and other actors do know how Hollywood works if you have been in the business long enough. It isn’t like he has to worry about being out of Disney’s good graces right now, but there is a difference between a parent company’s decisions and the main company’s decision. As pointed out, ABC was not getting the moneys from syndication and the show had lost viewers as it had been running out of steam for a while. Plus, with the reduction of cast from Chuck’s wife, Carol, major reduction of Ryan and Boyd, Muffin and yes, even Ed’s 4th wife. The show was looking to save money and ABC decided, they weren’t getting the return on their investment, so away it went.

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    • The few times I briefly tuned in, Allen was nastily making anti-Obama comments

      https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029069123#post7

      To my knowledge he bashed Pres. Obama on every show. His griping tone was unpleasant, not humorous in any way so good riddance

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    • http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/106142810.html?page=4#comments

      saemcrh
      May 10th, 2017, 11:39 pm
      I saw an episode of this once and the humor was so archaic. You could tell Tim Allen is a Republican from this show.

      microminiscrew
      May 11th, 2017, 12:03 am
      I remember this show being where Nick Jonas played the baby daddy of one of his daughters. I watched it out of curiosity and it was bottom of the barrel, gunning for that bigoted Midwestern man style ‘comedy’. Anyway good riddance to Tim Allen.

      bruxelles
      May 11th, 2017, 12:18 am
      I’ve never watched a full episode but I’ve seen scenes from it and there always seems to be some shi**y “joke” about liberals or millennials or immigrants. I saw a minute of it on TV today and they made some gross joke about the kid getting some illness from the undocumented kids at his school.

      lovedforaday
      May 11th, 2017, 02:37 am
      it’s like tim allen thought it was a good idea to make a modern day all in the family except this time archie was right.

      solid_girl
      May 11th, 2017, 02:46 am
      The show was hot garbage. Although I like old school sitcom humor this Show was a freaking love letter to trump loving ,annoying ass, suburban republicans.

      Also finding out this was on for 6 seasons was like finding out how long ‘the middle’ has been on. Him and Patricia Heaton really know how to keep the sitcom dollars coming.

      waxandstrings
      May 11th, 2017, 02:54 am
      i felt so uncomfortable anytime i’d watch this show on a whim, his agenda was so clear. i liked the women on the show enough, so i’m glad they’re free

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      • The thing with Tim Allen is that one could suggest that it’s hard to tell if what you’re seeing on “Last Man Standing” is supposed to be a satire (with Tim playing kind of a right-wing cartoon character/strawman) or an amplified variation of Tim Allen’s real political views/agenda.

        Maybe this is a reach but a similar sort of comparison can be made with somebody like Chevy Chase. What I mean is that Chevy was so deadpan and just has this air smugness, that it’s legitimately hard to tell if he’s just ribbing you or he’s really out to insult you and piss you off.

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        • I’m going to say that a lot of his real life personality leaked out from that character he played (but i don’t think he’s ready to be the next Bill Maher either). To paraphrase what Don Johnson once said about his Crockett character, how much did Tim Allen slip in the character, and how much the character became Tim Allen, the lines are blurred.

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